And? Who thinks 50 bucks a month health insurance will last forever. Most working people pay that per week.
Remember this Brown, UPS will only give the teamsters X amount of dollars to create a new "administrator". With that money, the teamsters have to HIRE actuaries to calculate how much a new plan will cost, and they have to factor in retirees now and in the future. They have LESS members to bring to the table with the insurance companies, and that means HIGHER costs for a plan. Unlike UPS who brought over 200K to the table and purchased a plan, now the western conference will have to do it with less than 80K.
Secondly, they will have to "deduct" from X amount of dollars, the expense of maintaining the administrators and that takes away from the amount of money needed to buy a new plan. That being said, whatever is left will have to go towards the new plan and if that isnt enough money, then "NEW" revenue has to be found. UPS isnt going to give any more money and the teamster locals in the west surely arent going to chip in, so where will the extra revenue have to come from????
Your a smart guy, so i know you said "FROM THE UPS TEAMSTERS IN THE WEST".
This is why the western conference wants 6 months to figure this out. If they were upfront, they would tell us now, but instead, they want to blow smoke up our rear ends and tell us everything is going to be fine and to trust them, but when open enrollment rolls around in november, they will spring out the crappy plans they put together.
Then, what choice will we have?? The contract by then is signed , sealed and delivered. We have NO recourse at that point. We will have to eat whatever they place in front of us and THEY know it.
Retirees will be getting screwed the HARDEST in this new contract. $50 bucks in the first year for the employee, $50 bucks more for a spouse, that 100 in year one. Then, it doubles in year two or $200 bucks, then in year three it doubles AGAIN to $400.00 bucks, and if there are any eligible kids involved, the price is even highter.
THIS IS A RIPOFF for our retirees!
With record profits, thanks
IN PART to the concessions in the last contract ( split wages, additional year of progression, subcontracting ), UPS made out like bandits in the last 8 years, and this time around, the TEAMSTERS want to "ADD" to those profits by further concessions ( another additional year of progression, split wages in years 4 & 5, subcontracting and the elimination of health care ) and they want us to congratulate them in the process.
Allthough i am NOT a supporter of TDU , and I voted for HOFFA, I can say, that i believe this disastrous contract has only opened the door for TDU to walk through in the upcoming years. This contract will supply anyone running against an encumbent with enough amunition to destroy them.
Two contracts of concessions. Huge impacts on our retirees. Huge impacts on our partimers. Huge impacts on our full time employees families with inferior health care.
I cant believe what I am seeing from HOFFA / HALL. Its a joke, and that joke is going to be on "US" if we dont reject this agreement and force the teamsters to go back to table, negotiate our health care to stay the same with the same provisions and maintained by the company. They can take that additional year of progression and shove that up the companys rear end as well. They can take care of our retirees and not kick them to the side of the road, and they can come to US for better language on harrassment, 9.5 and route loops.
If we pass this POS agreement, we will have no one to blame but ourselves.
Peace
TOS
. The message is demanding that members from the west call that number and leave a message with hall secretary telling her how we are getting screwed by his actions out here. My shop stewards have informed us that the this text message was sent out by local officials who have yet to endorse the TA and may even be pushing for a NO vote!
