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<blockquote data-quote="hypocrisy" data-source="post: 937672" data-attributes="member: 9500"><p>Brownbaggin, I'm on vacation but I wanted to check in and thank you for taking the time to respond so thoroughly to my questions. I appreciated many of the things you had to say. A couple of thoughts:</p><p></p><p>- the pay: UPS used to have a decent Incentive program that rewarded those go-getter Drivers and I think I recall there being one in the part-time when I first started. It's unfortunate that they have more or less done away with it, although the argument against it was you were trading overtime for straight time. </p><p></p><p>-I appreciate your concern for egress and wish it was contagious. If you were simply clearing an aisle, I would not file on you. Unfortunately, most don't stop at just clearing the egress and sometimes the Big Picture is that there are other factors creating the egress issue such as cramming the sort into too short of a time. The egress thing did shock me a bit as I can't seem to get supervisors in my building to stop working no matter how many grievances I file but they will not do anything to clear egress.</p><p></p><p>- I knew that UPS doesn't train you in the Contract, and in my area only center manager's have a copy. It's unfortunate as if they did it could resolve a lot of issues (on our side too as I spend most of my time educating members who say "It says this!" and I have to say "Yes, but you have to read this and this and know that the intent was this to know you are completely wrong". I don't know what they do in supervisor school but it always seemed like I spent a lot of time reprogramming on-roads in package when they came back. They may not teach the Contract but they sure taught them how to violate it. </p><p></p><p>-Oftentimes I would have on-roads 'suggest' I file a grievance for such and such supervisors who took out routes on certain days while drivers weren't called in. Those kind of relationships helped them when they needed a 'break' and would help stop them from having to deliver when they really just wanted to manage people. </p><p></p><p>Thanks again,</p><p></p><p>crowbar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hypocrisy, post: 937672, member: 9500"] Brownbaggin, I'm on vacation but I wanted to check in and thank you for taking the time to respond so thoroughly to my questions. I appreciated many of the things you had to say. A couple of thoughts: - the pay: UPS used to have a decent Incentive program that rewarded those go-getter Drivers and I think I recall there being one in the part-time when I first started. It's unfortunate that they have more or less done away with it, although the argument against it was you were trading overtime for straight time. -I appreciate your concern for egress and wish it was contagious. If you were simply clearing an aisle, I would not file on you. Unfortunately, most don't stop at just clearing the egress and sometimes the Big Picture is that there are other factors creating the egress issue such as cramming the sort into too short of a time. The egress thing did shock me a bit as I can't seem to get supervisors in my building to stop working no matter how many grievances I file but they will not do anything to clear egress. - I knew that UPS doesn't train you in the Contract, and in my area only center manager's have a copy. It's unfortunate as if they did it could resolve a lot of issues (on our side too as I spend most of my time educating members who say "It says this!" and I have to say "Yes, but you have to read this and this and know that the intent was this to know you are completely wrong". I don't know what they do in supervisor school but it always seemed like I spent a lot of time reprogramming on-roads in package when they came back. They may not teach the Contract but they sure taught them how to violate it. -Oftentimes I would have on-roads 'suggest' I file a grievance for such and such supervisors who took out routes on certain days while drivers weren't called in. Those kind of relationships helped them when they needed a 'break' and would help stop them from having to deliver when they really just wanted to manage people. Thanks again, crowbar [/QUOTE]
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