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<blockquote data-quote="LongTimeComing" data-source="post: 1084370" data-attributes="member: 45493"><p>While you are accurate in the fact that those guys are not alone, saying it's easy work wrong. Moving around 50 cans that weigh 3500 - 4000lbs multiple times get's pretty tiring pretty fast. I WISH we had "so many of us". I plan my aircraft and stage my cans in such a way to minimize the amount of times they have to touch them. Having to stop, and restart moving a 2 ton container is not fun when all you have is 3-4 people. I can honestly say that I've had days at the airport that I would have traded for a busy day out on my route delivering. I would never say my employees worked as hard as I did when I delivered, but when times get tough....it's tough.</p><p></p><p>I have yet to disagree that forced overtime is a problem. It's always a problem. The weather is part of the calculated risk, as it's not something within the company's control. I'm not saying that "Well, because UPS says it's not important, means it's not important" I'm saying that the argument will be stonewalled if there's no other reason provided than the weather. Weather is supplemental, and expecting a company with as much work as we have to cater plans around 'just cold weather' is unrealistic. They should fix the forced overtime issue....because an exhausted driver is a liability even before the weather is calculated. The unpredictability of the weather is a calculated risk that needs to be adjusted to by the people who have to work in it. "Make adjustments to changing conditions" as it were......</p><p></p><p>I agree...dealing with it sucks. We do as much as we can to lessen the blow on our folks out on the ramp. Hide in the empty trailer till the next arrives....go inside if we have ample enough time, etc etc. I believe this is where the conflict is.....These package centers aren't showing a bit of concern....While I still find it a little silly for someone to complain about the cold...not getting any sort of concession or help from your management team would be quite disheartening. You would hope, being part of delivery, that these managers would understand the challenges more than they apparently are showing. It's a shame that there are places like this, and whether or not the issue of forced overtime gets completely fixed when the weather is challenging, I feel people would at least appreciate it if there was some effort put forth by their management team to try something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LongTimeComing, post: 1084370, member: 45493"] While you are accurate in the fact that those guys are not alone, saying it's easy work wrong. Moving around 50 cans that weigh 3500 - 4000lbs multiple times get's pretty tiring pretty fast. I WISH we had "so many of us". I plan my aircraft and stage my cans in such a way to minimize the amount of times they have to touch them. Having to stop, and restart moving a 2 ton container is not fun when all you have is 3-4 people. I can honestly say that I've had days at the airport that I would have traded for a busy day out on my route delivering. I would never say my employees worked as hard as I did when I delivered, but when times get tough....it's tough. I have yet to disagree that forced overtime is a problem. It's always a problem. The weather is part of the calculated risk, as it's not something within the company's control. I'm not saying that "Well, because UPS says it's not important, means it's not important" I'm saying that the argument will be stonewalled if there's no other reason provided than the weather. Weather is supplemental, and expecting a company with as much work as we have to cater plans around 'just cold weather' is unrealistic. They should fix the forced overtime issue....because an exhausted driver is a liability even before the weather is calculated. The unpredictability of the weather is a calculated risk that needs to be adjusted to by the people who have to work in it. "Make adjustments to changing conditions" as it were...... I agree...dealing with it sucks. We do as much as we can to lessen the blow on our folks out on the ramp. Hide in the empty trailer till the next arrives....go inside if we have ample enough time, etc etc. I believe this is where the conflict is.....These package centers aren't showing a bit of concern....While I still find it a little silly for someone to complain about the cold...not getting any sort of concession or help from your management team would be quite disheartening. You would hope, being part of delivery, that these managers would understand the challenges more than they apparently are showing. It's a shame that there are places like this, and whether or not the issue of forced overtime gets completely fixed when the weather is challenging, I feel people would at least appreciate it if there was some effort put forth by their management team to try something. [/QUOTE]
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