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What happens if you don't join the union?
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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 789681" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>You <em>aren't</em> a driver for UPS, nor are you a member of the union. But you have an opinion that the drivers would be better off without a union.</p><p> </p><p>Nothing wrong with that, everybody is entitled to an opinion. I am curious, though; what is your opinion based upon?</p><p> </p><p>Have you actually taken the time to <em>research</em> and directly compare the wages, benefits and working conditions of UPS drivers against those of non-union drivers for companies such as FedEx or DHL? Or is it possible that your admitted bias against unions is getting in the way of an objective analysis of the facts?</p><p> </p><p>As a 24 year driver and union member, I can state with 100% certainty that the union is a direct benefit to me and my family. A direct apples-to-apples comparison between myself and the 20-year veteran FedEx driver who works my area would show that I pay $900 per year in union dues vs. nothing for him; but my overall compensation package is superior to his by about $1500 per <em>month</em>. In other words...I get that $900 back by about the 3rd week in January and from that point on I am money ahead. And that is not even factoring in the overwhelming superiority of my pension plan compared to his.</p><p> </p><p>Those arent <em>opinions</em>, they are <em>facts</em>. I would encourage you to research and verify them for yourself.</p><p> </p><p>I am going to play a hunch here, and say that your dislike of unions has less to do with any actual facts, and more to do with your desire to try and get out of paying the same union dues that your coworkers are. Am I wrong?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 789681, member: 14668"] You [I]aren't[/I] a driver for UPS, nor are you a member of the union. But you have an opinion that the drivers would be better off without a union. Nothing wrong with that, everybody is entitled to an opinion. I am curious, though; what is your opinion based upon? Have you actually taken the time to [I]research[/I] and directly compare the wages, benefits and working conditions of UPS drivers against those of non-union drivers for companies such as FedEx or DHL? Or is it possible that your admitted bias against unions is getting in the way of an objective analysis of the facts? As a 24 year driver and union member, I can state with 100% certainty that the union is a direct benefit to me and my family. A direct apples-to-apples comparison between myself and the 20-year veteran FedEx driver who works my area would show that I pay $900 per year in union dues vs. nothing for him; but my overall compensation package is superior to his by about $1500 per [I]month[/I]. In other words...I get that $900 back by about the 3rd week in January and from that point on I am money ahead. And that is not even factoring in the overwhelming superiority of my pension plan compared to his. Those arent [I]opinions[/I], they are [I]facts[/I]. I would encourage you to research and verify them for yourself. I am going to play a hunch here, and say that your dislike of unions has less to do with any actual facts, and more to do with your desire to try and get out of paying the same union dues that your coworkers are. Am I wrong? [/QUOTE]
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