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<blockquote data-quote="stevetheupsguy" data-source="post: 412734" data-attributes="member: 9662"><p>Here we are on the 6th page of this thread and you guys/gals though not the members of the jury, are still bickering about whether this guy is guilty or not of stealing a cell phone. Red's point of LP saying he stole the phone while only being in possession of said phone is valid. Just because you have it, doesn't mean you stole said phone. Just as D never stole the C.O.D. money. There's a reason behind both of these stories. Red's guy says, he bought it from a guy that was hard up at the time. I understand that you find this hard to believe, Tie, as I find it hard to believe that O.J. didn't practically hack Nichole and her guy friends heads off. In our minds we draw a bunch of conclusions to what we see and hear. Fact of the matter, though, is that is our own opinion, as we weren't there and don't have the facts just the opinions drawn up in our minds. On the one hand this guy could be a cunning thief, who calculatingly stole or helped steal a cell phone and to cover his tracks registers the phone so that he looks like a victim of unwittingly buying stolen goods. On the other hand, he could be a guy that heard a story of someone hurting for cash and saw a good deal and decided to help the seller out of a jam. Either way, this is all we have to go on, as far as information goes. So we base our opinion on these facts. Now granted, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This forum is full of opinions and that's exactly why it's here. Pronouncing guilt or innocense is up to the courts, though. Just as O.J. was aquitted of murder, even though the majority of people that I have spoken to believe he did the crime, doesn't make the judiciary wrong. There are people who still think O.J. should go to jail for that crime. We as humans weigh in our minds the guilt or innocense of people daily, it's just the fact of how our minds work. These opinions that we form have no bearing on the guilt or innocense of anyone we hear about or see. What I'm basically trying to say here is that we can believe what we want about this case, but our belief of innocent or guilty has no bearing on the outcome. If 705 thinks his guy is innocent and got him off at the panel and goes to court to get him off at trial, and does so, good for him. 705 is the one who has the facts in front of himself. He has, through much thought, decided this gentleman must be innocent. Remember, 705 hates thieves, <a href="http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/terminated-want-my-job-back.188795/" target="_blank">http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/terminated-want-my-job-back.188795/</a> so I don't think he would knowingly represent a thief. Tie, as guilty as this guy "sounds", he's not, until proven to be guilty. As for name calling and such, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, without being bashed for their thinking, no matter how far fetched it may look to the reader. Not everything is as it appears all the time. Try taking a look at things from another viewpoint and it may change your opinion.</p><p></p><p>One day I was out and about with my family. We were driving on a road in Palm City, Florida. While driving, a pick up truck pulled out of a side street in front of us and went really slow in front of us. This pissed me off, as I was doing 45 and had to brake really hard to avoid hitting the pick up. I proceeded to go around in front of the pick up and slow down myself. This pissed the guy off and he started following me as I drove. I drove normal speed and he stayed right behind me. I pulled up to a light where I had to wait for the left turn arrow and the guy pulled up right behind me. I watched through my sideview mirror and saw him getting out of his pick up with a large stick. Rather than let the guy get close enough to my Explorer and break my windows, I ran up to him, knocked him on his butt, ripped the stick from his hands, flung it across the street and yelled at the guy before jumping back in my Explorer and driving a different way so he couldn't follow me. Someone else followed my though. Someone was on a cell phone with the police following me and I eventually got pulled over. The person on the phone in the other car stated to the police that I had gotten out of my truck with a baseball bat and beaten this guy before I took off again. I wondered, how this person could have seen this happen? After confessing to the police the judge threw the book at me and I'm now in the big house based on what the other driver saw, NOT!!! I took the police back to the scene of events and showed them the stick I had flung into the woods. The pick up driver was long gone and the police had no real case. Based on the "factual" statements of onlookers or witnesses I could be in jail now. Now, I know that if I had never allowed myself to get invloved in such a stupid situation none of the above would have ever happened. Sometimes we do silly things, and sometimes people see stuff a different way than it actually happened. I'm not saying it always happens this way, I'm just saying that it could. Sorry for the length of this read. Just thought it required my .02<span style="font-size: 15px">¢. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevetheupsguy, post: 412734, member: 9662"] Here we are on the 6th page of this thread and you guys/gals though not the members of the jury, are still bickering about whether this guy is guilty or not of stealing a cell phone. Red's point of LP saying he stole the phone while only being in possession of said phone is valid. Just because you have it, doesn't mean you stole said phone. Just as D never stole the C.O.D. money. There's a reason behind both of these stories. Red's guy says, he bought it from a guy that was hard up at the time. I understand that you find this hard to believe, Tie, as I find it hard to believe that O.J. didn't practically hack Nichole and her guy friends heads off. In our minds we draw a bunch of conclusions to what we see and hear. Fact of the matter, though, is that is our own opinion, as we weren't there and don't have the facts just the opinions drawn up in our minds. On the one hand this guy could be a cunning thief, who calculatingly stole or helped steal a cell phone and to cover his tracks registers the phone so that he looks like a victim of unwittingly buying stolen goods. On the other hand, he could be a guy that heard a story of someone hurting for cash and saw a good deal and decided to help the seller out of a jam. Either way, this is all we have to go on, as far as information goes. So we base our opinion on these facts. Now granted, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This forum is full of opinions and that's exactly why it's here. Pronouncing guilt or innocense is up to the courts, though. Just as O.J. was aquitted of murder, even though the majority of people that I have spoken to believe he did the crime, doesn't make the judiciary wrong. There are people who still think O.J. should go to jail for that crime. We as humans weigh in our minds the guilt or innocense of people daily, it's just the fact of how our minds work. These opinions that we form have no bearing on the guilt or innocense of anyone we hear about or see. What I'm basically trying to say here is that we can believe what we want about this case, but our belief of innocent or guilty has no bearing on the outcome. If 705 thinks his guy is innocent and got him off at the panel and goes to court to get him off at trial, and does so, good for him. 705 is the one who has the facts in front of himself. He has, through much thought, decided this gentleman must be innocent. Remember, 705 hates thieves, [url]http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/terminated-want-my-job-back.188795/[/url] so I don't think he would knowingly represent a thief. Tie, as guilty as this guy "sounds", he's not, until proven to be guilty. As for name calling and such, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, without being bashed for their thinking, no matter how far fetched it may look to the reader. Not everything is as it appears all the time. Try taking a look at things from another viewpoint and it may change your opinion. One day I was out and about with my family. We were driving on a road in Palm City, Florida. While driving, a pick up truck pulled out of a side street in front of us and went really slow in front of us. This pissed me off, as I was doing 45 and had to brake really hard to avoid hitting the pick up. I proceeded to go around in front of the pick up and slow down myself. This pissed the guy off and he started following me as I drove. I drove normal speed and he stayed right behind me. I pulled up to a light where I had to wait for the left turn arrow and the guy pulled up right behind me. I watched through my sideview mirror and saw him getting out of his pick up with a large stick. Rather than let the guy get close enough to my Explorer and break my windows, I ran up to him, knocked him on his butt, ripped the stick from his hands, flung it across the street and yelled at the guy before jumping back in my Explorer and driving a different way so he couldn't follow me. Someone else followed my though. Someone was on a cell phone with the police following me and I eventually got pulled over. The person on the phone in the other car stated to the police that I had gotten out of my truck with a baseball bat and beaten this guy before I took off again. I wondered, how this person could have seen this happen? After confessing to the police the judge threw the book at me and I'm now in the big house based on what the other driver saw, NOT!!! I took the police back to the scene of events and showed them the stick I had flung into the woods. The pick up driver was long gone and the police had no real case. Based on the "factual" statements of onlookers or witnesses I could be in jail now. Now, I know that if I had never allowed myself to get invloved in such a stupid situation none of the above would have ever happened. Sometimes we do silly things, and sometimes people see stuff a different way than it actually happened. I'm not saying it always happens this way, I'm just saying that it could. Sorry for the length of this read. Just thought it required my .02[SIZE=4]¢. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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