what is the 9.5 rule exactly?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by City Driver, May 18, 2009.

  1. City Driver

    City Driver New Member

    i hear you package car drivers talking about it all the time and dont understand it, we dont have it here
     
  2. Dustyroads

    Dustyroads New Member

    the 9.5 rule says that if the company causes you to work more than 9.5 hours on three days withing any five working day period, then it is considered excessive overtime and a violation of the contract, providing that the driver wishes to not be excessively dispatched.
     
  3. City Driver

    City Driver New Member

    oh i didnt think it meant that...i was confused about it

    i read something about double pay or triple pay any idea on that?
     
  4. Dustyroads

    Dustyroads New Member

    if a driver has been excessively dispatched, after expressing a desire to not work excessive overtime, then penalties can apply, such as double pay for the overtime. However, this penalty doesn't exist in all supplements and riders.
     
  5. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    It's not really a rule so to speak....more like a loose guideline.
     
  6. Dustyroads

    Dustyroads New Member

    That is correct, a guideline, Article 12, Hours of Work says, " The Employer shall continue its efforts to reduce overtime where requested...An employee shall have the right to file a grievance if the Employer has continuously caused him/her to work over nine and one half hours per day." The three out of five days was a standard that was mutually agreed in our two-state area, and has been held as a standard in all grievances.
     
  7. jimstud

    jimstud Banned

    actually it is article 37 pages 120 through 123
     
  8. City Driver

    City Driver New Member

    do people ever end up actually getting double or triple time for the hours worked over 9.5 if they file enough or no?
     
  9. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    I won my double time grievance a few years ago and got paid. My 9.5 problem cleared up pretty quick after that.
     
  10. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    its a moot point that says,, if you file a 9/5 grievance you will get a massive ojs ride and will be humbled
     
  11. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    It is worth every ojs ride. Follow theiR(ups) METHODS most times your numbers will be worst than before. In your favor. I filed 2 last week. They threatened a ojs. I say any time. Bring your wallet for lunch.
     
  12. NEFARIOUS

    NEFARIOUS BOTTOM FEEDER

    In our area they also say your route can't do over 150 miles or the 9.5 rules don't apply. Always a loophole....
     
  13. They monitor how many 9.5's drivers on the list have in a week in our center. They go out of their way to ensure you don't get 3. I guess it works out for both sides. The only retaliation we get for filing and getting on the list is if you don't have 2 days in the bag by Thursday, you will DEFINITELY be out late on Friday.
     
  14. dilligaf

    dilligaf IN VINO VERITAS

    I have, if I recall correctly, 6 9.5 grievances out right now, since the first of the year. This last one was filed jointly with a harrassment grievance. They used to be pretty good about making sure that the 9.5's were complied with. They don't even bother anymore. And yes, I had my 3 day OJS last week.

    3Hrs, you are right about getting screwed on Fri.

    Nefarious, the new thing is, supposedly, the driver has to be on a bidded rte for the week and it has to be deemed a 9.5 rte. So basically they are trying to screw the utility drivers out of 9.5's. I am still filing them.

    Jones, I've won lots of 9.5's and have a panel decision also.

    My BA is not doing one f....... thing about the 9.5's. Nearly half of our drivers, bidded and non bidded, are filing.
     
  15. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    The contract makes no provisions on bid vs. non-bid and as far as I know neither has the Over 9.5 National Committee....... yet.
    Encourage everyone to keep filing, it may not do any good but it sure won't hurt anything.
     
  16. dilligaf

    dilligaf IN VINO VERITAS

    This is the premise that I am basing my grievances on. And this is just a rumor that has not been confirmed by my BA yet. However I was told this by my steward. Are you WR, Trp? Nevermind, I answered my own question. This may be a WR agreement that the union has wrongly agreed to.
     
  17. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    I got no id what WR is, but I reckon I ain't.
     
  18. dilligaf

    dilligaf IN VINO VERITAS

    id? LOL It's a good thing I understand Texanese:surprised:. WR - Western Region. LMAO