tieguy
Banned
I think you're pretty optimistic. I don't see that many people in your ranks that would want the responsiibility of running the area.
I think you're pretty optimistic. I don't see that many people in your ranks that would want the responsiibility of running the area.
I hafta agree with Mike23. I'm here in Edmonton, and am still covering 1.5 rural runs. 55 to 60 stops a day and about 500kms. Is what I'd like to see in our next contract is something similar to what our brothers and sisters have in the states. A master agreement, with supplimental ammendments for each separate province. The economy here in Alberta is so different to that of the economy any wheres else in Canada.
farmerbrown
Active Member
I think that you are kind of missing the point here. No one wants to consistently work all of this overtime. Since it is impossible to get time off or any kind of chance to leave early, excessive pay is the only way we have to get management to cool their collective jets. Summer is here and we have guys on the bench starving for work. I really do not want to work 55-60 hours per week all summer schlepping packages. Peak is one thing that we all expect and I don't mind trying to out stud the other guy buy tearing through the stops. Just don't expect me to eat my dinner out of the microwave year round. I am filiing over 9.5's and extremely dissapointed with the way management is pushing us. If UPS is really that broke than for God's sake stop with the crappy NASCAR sponsorship and Ridiculous whiteboard commercials.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I think we should get our birthdays off as paid holidays and veterans should get Veterans Day off.
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speeddemon
Guest
why not ask for an improved economy so people don't have to worry about losing their jobs.
Because we knew YOU would. I'm just sayin. =)
City Driver
Well-Known Member
I think that you are kind of missing the point here. No one wants to consistently work all of this overtime. Since it is impossible to get time off or any kind of chance to leave early, excessive pay is the only way we have to get management to cool their collective jets. Summer is here and we have guys on the bench starving for work. I really do not want to work 55-60 hours per week all summer schlepping packages. Peak is one thing that we all expect and I don't mind trying to out stud the other guy buy tearing through the stops..
ok when u put it that way i understand it alot more.....but im the guy who doesnt mind working 60 hours a week ( i use to but not anymore, they wont give me much overtime now)
but an hour paid lunch is just asking too much.....id much rather not be required to take a lunch at all, but i think the law prevents this, not really sure though
rod
Retired 22 years
Amen to that! It always made me
that I had to work on Veterans Day and almost everyone else (other than UPS'ers) I knew encluding my wife got the day off. As far as having your birthday off I would of rather had the day after off 
Braveheart
Well-Known Member
Work UNTIL proven guilty. We used to have it but no more.
Our local seems content to let them fire guys left and right even when innocent.
Then they get the guys jobs back but no back pay even when they were not terminable offenses.
They say well it will get deadlocked and you are looking at 6 months easy and a year is rather likely. I know you are innocent and never should have been fired but they are offering your job back as time served right now if you don't fight it.
They say if you can afford to sit it out we will fight it but there are no guarantees.
What is a guy going to do. We need a stronger contract and a stronger union!!!
I am not talking about guys who deserved to be fired and are lucky to get their job back. Those guys should be out the 3-6-12 months not the innocent guys. But as I have seen over the last few years the guilty come back as quick as the innocent ones.
We have even had INNOCENT drivers say at the local hearing "hey I am innocent but I need to pay my mortgage, feed my kids, pay the insurance" to the union rep. They say screw it, I will take it as a 1 or 2 week suspension right now. Let me go back to work.
The least the union should be able to do is get the good guys and the innocent ones back right then and there. The guilty ones should have to sit out for another month or two. BUT NO, the union can not even get that right! The guy with his first fender bender in years gets denied same as the dufus with the 4th tier 3 in 5 years. Then like clockwork they both come back in 2-3 months.
What a friggin joke. The innocent guy becomes disgruntled and the guilty guy gets another pass!!!!
HOFFA has to go!
Our local seems content to let them fire guys left and right even when innocent.
Then they get the guys jobs back but no back pay even when they were not terminable offenses.
They say well it will get deadlocked and you are looking at 6 months easy and a year is rather likely. I know you are innocent and never should have been fired but they are offering your job back as time served right now if you don't fight it.
They say if you can afford to sit it out we will fight it but there are no guarantees.
What is a guy going to do. We need a stronger contract and a stronger union!!!
I am not talking about guys who deserved to be fired and are lucky to get their job back. Those guys should be out the 3-6-12 months not the innocent guys. But as I have seen over the last few years the guilty come back as quick as the innocent ones.
We have even had INNOCENT drivers say at the local hearing "hey I am innocent but I need to pay my mortgage, feed my kids, pay the insurance" to the union rep. They say screw it, I will take it as a 1 or 2 week suspension right now. Let me go back to work.
The least the union should be able to do is get the good guys and the innocent ones back right then and there. The guilty ones should have to sit out for another month or two. BUT NO, the union can not even get that right! The guy with his first fender bender in years gets denied same as the dufus with the 4th tier 3 in 5 years. Then like clockwork they both come back in 2-3 months.
What a friggin joke. The innocent guy becomes disgruntled and the guilty guy gets another pass!!!!
HOFFA has to go!
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Mike23
Guest
I got another idear 
Work must be compliant with the size of vehicle. If you can't fit it in the truck in the morning, too bad, you're not supplying the proper equipment!
Secondly, if you're requested to help someone, since it wasn't on your truck in the morning, you get double time for helping them after 8 hours of your own work. Anything less then 8 hours of your own work is time and a half for helping them.
You know, having managers actually take responsibility and be punished for their stupidity.
Work must be compliant with the size of vehicle. If you can't fit it in the truck in the morning, too bad, you're not supplying the proper equipment!
Secondly, if you're requested to help someone, since it wasn't on your truck in the morning, you get double time for helping them after 8 hours of your own work. Anything less then 8 hours of your own work is time and a half for helping them.
You know, having managers actually take responsibility and be punished for their stupidity.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
What good is the contract - and new language/provisions - if the company (and even union!) do not follow the current one?
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Mike23
Guest
What good is the contract - and new language/provisions - if the company (and even union!) do not follow the current one?
Because if you're 100% right you can go above the union and hire a labor lawyer instead? Although I'm sure the union would be pretty pissed about this since it's likely they'd have to fork the bill if you won.
broncobros1
Well-Known Member
Or just pray they hold YOU accountable with the same ending...Or we could just pray really hard that you never get another raise and eventually leave UPS!
bubsdad
"Hang in there!"
How about no local agreements without presenting the agreement to the members of the local to vote on?
How about all local agreements shall be recorded and a copy of each given to all the stewards in the local?
How about a detailed system for how on call procedures are to be followed?
How about a number for how many hourly employees have to be laid off before any management gets laid off?
How about all local agreements shall be recorded and a copy of each given to all the stewards in the local?
How about a detailed system for how on call procedures are to be followed?
How about a number for how many hourly employees have to be laid off before any management gets laid off?
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Mike23
Guest
A limit on mile or KM to drive for a freaking split (drove 96KM round trip for a split on Monday...yes, that's financially wise to send a driver across the ENTIRE city during rush hour)
