What to do about a sort gone completely rogue?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Liquid Swords, Jan 18, 2014.

  1. anonymous4

    anonymous4 Active Member

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  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Nice story----why did you feel the need to single me out, especially since it had nothing to do with your little story?
     
  3. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

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  4. Covemastah

    Covemastah Suspension Ovah !!! Tom is free FU Goodell !!

    If your Local BA and Pres aren't cutting it for you ,,go vvar their heads with a letter and a phone call to Hoffa's office and take record of who you spoke to and when !! Good luck
     
  5. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Make a NLRB complaint for failure to represent.
     
  6. Re-Raise

    Re-Raise Well-Known Member

    I was wondering the same thing
     
  7. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    I personally like Cove's idea but try this one -

    Become a steward, learn the contract in and out and be the thorn in UPS's and your BA's side
    You can not be fired for bringing up grievances and issues as a steward. As long as you follow proper methods as an employee, you can go over an incompetent BA's head with valor and a whole lot of paperwork.

    YOU are the union

    or better said

    Can't spell Union without U (you)
     
  8. anonymous4

    anonymous4 Active Member

    Because it's all about you, why else?
     
  9. anonymous4

    anonymous4 Active Member

    I have no desire to become a steward. This should not mean the system I pay into remain broken. My grievances do not go through. As stated, 2/5 days supervisors are "officially working", the others UPS wiggles out of every grievance. It is not a good situation here.
     
  10. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Then get back in line, there is nothing to see here

    If you're not part of the solution, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
     
  11. anonymous4

    anonymous4 Active Member

    This is not logical. You are essentially saying I, as a regular member, in spite of paying dues, am part of the problem because I hold no desire to be a union steward. I want to work, I want the contract enforced and I want what I have earned through seniority. I work, I file grievances based on contract violations and I hold high (relative) seniority. I am most certainly not part of the problem.

    What you have just said makes zero sense.
     
  12. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Sorry to hear that
    I'm in a heavily unionized building
    The only fights here are who's going to get paid for the grievances

    The union only works if everyone is on board, if you have a building full of sheep you are in a bad position. If you had the internet balls to start a thread with no anonymity, I assumed you had them to become part of the solution. Keep looking up in the skies....Superman ain't coming to save your local.
     
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  13. snookbunny420

    snookbunny420 Member

    I agree with swords, it's all upstate's fault.
     
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  14. anonymous4

    anonymous4 Active Member

    I am aware. UPS targets those who do not want to work and offers incentives to go with the flow. The rest are young kids on their first job who are just happy to have "help". There is no changing this and I am sure it is wide-spread on certain shifts. I do understand where you are going with your reply but I am not in a position to hold stewardship to the way I would see fit at this time. I do not believe that means my seniority should be worthless.

    I refuse to watch someone with a month in pick-off while I am told the problem is being "worked on" just to have nothing come of my grievances. I have no problem going over this local to apply pressure or contacting OSHA about safety issues until I am in a better position to do justice in stewardship.
     
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Put up or shut up.
     
  16. snookbunny420

    snookbunny420 Member

    even though we pay dues to an organization to do the job,most of these bozos feel that you should do it yourself. when the union starts showing support to the members, maybe the members will start showing support to the union
     
  17. anonymous4

    anonymous4 Active Member

    While it always was and always will be his fault, there is forgiveness to be had.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The members are the union.
     
  19. snookbunny420

    snookbunny420 Member

    no the union is a bunch of hacks that get paid to represent us but only collect our dues so they can drive nice cars, go to UNITY CONFERENCE on our dime et al. most of these hacks have never held a blue collar job at all. prime example is "our great leader" piggy hoffa
     
  20. anonymous4

    anonymous4 Active Member

    Again, this is a worthless mentality. The contract is not just for the thousand stewards across the country. If I said I don't file, people would be telling me to file as a solution. I am filing, and that isn't working, so now I need to revolutionize our hub to get an extra hour of work and a pick-off that per the contract, should be mine without struggle. When that doesn't work, I will be told I must run for union office, fast-forward 5 years and I will be in a head-to-head showdown with Hoffa Jr. when all I wanted was my pick-off.