there have been several good posts. and integrity shows that while he tries to pass him/herself off as the
ups i have all the answers man all it really shows is the gross lack of knowledge of what really goes on. with a very few exceptions, all of his posts sound like getting into a conversation with a bot that has limited artificial intelligence.
there have been a couple of pm's regarding my input and position in this matter.
yes, i am retired.
but during my time as a steward, only one driver was fired where it stuck. he falsified his jury duty sheet for time served to get some extra days off. they gave him two chances to come clean, and he did not. even after they proved he lied, they still might have kept him on had he been a good employee, but there were too many issues in the past year, so that was the final nail.
there were several others that were terminated. all got their jobs back at the local hearing. even two others that were fired for dishonesty, which normally will get you the door with out a return trip.
so with that background, i keep in touch with what is going on at the center. i developed a good relationship with local and district management where they knew i was a straight shooter. most of the managers i had to deal with were pretty much like lifer. with the exception of my center manager at the time i left. but that is another story for another time.
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NO DRIVER HAS EVER BEEN SUSPENDED OR DISCHARGED FOR BEING OVER ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not too long ago a steward got canned and was upheld at the panel that was fired more because of attitude than production. but production, and the importance of the driver to be able to demonstrate his ability to follow instructions and work to his ability were key aspects to the case.
while i agree that production by itself is not a termination issue, couple that with other things
in his case the ability to change attitudes and that ups does have the right to set standards and hold drivers accountable. that is what got him fired, not just production.
as long as you exhibit a good attitude, and do your job to the best of your ability, production is not an issue. its when you cop the bad attitude, and challenge their right to set standards that drivers end up out on the plank.
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