What Would Jefferson Say?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by wkmac, May 29, 2011.

  1. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jUU3yCy3uI&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    The guy dancing and gets body slammed is former marine and Iraq veteran Adam Kokesh. I guess our heroes are only heroes until they dance in public at the Jefferson Memorial.
     
  2. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member

    "I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive. "TJ:dont_know:


    I think we all know he would be sickened.

    I saw this a couple days ago. I really think the cop that took down the last guy was extremely lucky he was not a violent protester. I would have dislocated his shoulder when he grabbed me. It seems obvious they wanted to get detained and I suppose they have the freedom to get detained if that's really what they want but it is very sad that it is so easy to be detained in a "free" country.
     
  3. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member

    "In matters of style, swim with the current;
    In matters of principle, stand like a rock."-TJ


    An elective despotism was not the government we fought for. -TJ

    No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him. -TJ

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-TJ
     
  4. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    Being a hero doesn't give one the right to break the law.Or is your point that the law they were violating a stupid law and a protest was important?
     
  5. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    I have mixed feelings about this clip. The minute you 'mouth off' to cops (real ones or rent-a-cop), you're in trouble. I also don't like the cops who are so 'power drunk' they carry things too far. There's got to be a happy medium somewhere.
    I think a better definition of "demonstration" is needed. I can kind of see both sides.
     
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    First off, being a former high school wrestler, I can tell you that wasn't much of a take down and the choke hold pretty pathetic. As far as the incident as a whole, I commend the demonstrators for their non-violent protest in the spirit of Ghandi, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and Nelson Mandela.
     
  7. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    But supposedly, they weren't demonstrating anything....they were dancing.
     
  8. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    I think their non-violent refusal to submit to ridiculous law enforcement demands became a worthy demonstration.
     
  9. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Seems like most times he would start with, "Hey, Weezy!"
     
  10. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    That's just hilarious!!
     
  11. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Good quotes AV!
    :thumbup1:
     
  12. trplnkl

    trplnkl 555

    The law the officers were attempting to enforce may indeed be ridiculous, but their duty is to enforce the law. From what I could tell the officer was doing his duty in a very calm manner until the morons would not comply. If this was an actual demonstration they need a permit to do so. Evidently they didn't have one, which would make any demonstration illegal. If they were just wanting to make a statement, they accomplished their goal and can now pay their fines coming their way.
     
  13. Just Lurking

    Just Lurking Member

    Network was moving slow so he did not get the message that the "Flash mob time had been changed!"
     
  14. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

  15. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    I still cant tell if I like this guy or not...... you know something we dont WK.....?
     
  16. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Why should liking him have anything to do with it?
     
  17. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed. Note that I said nothing about the officers. Nothing "Rodney King" like about this. Nothing "David Koresh" like. Nothing "Ruby Ridge" like.
     
  18. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    curiosity I guess.... I suppose in the bigger picture it doesnt matter. But in all honesty, I like to be able to figure people out as much as I can. Sometimes you can understand their motivation whether you agree with em or not
     
  19. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member


    I was under the impression it was not possible to get a permit to demonstrate at the monuments and all demonstrations were illegal.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    They sure looked peaceable to me.
     
  20. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    I think they failed to comply when they were told something by a cop. You can think the cop is wrong, but you better do what they say. Sue later.