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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 126067" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>hoser,</p><p>That's changing rapidly and will continue to do so IMO. When UPS started the multi-tier wage scale for PTer's in 1982' the difference in the $8 per hour start and the prior to 82' contract inside PT wage was in the $3 plus neighborhood. With the benefits, etc. you could still draw from the topside of workpool and get good people. As the years have gone by this equation has gottem more and more lopsided to the point today that we in many cases are drawing from the bottom with many a urban hub or center even having to adapt internal security measures as a result that it's alledged many inside PTers are in gangs and as well have criminal records and backgrounds. </p><p> </p><p>As your very foundation of your company from which you get your drivers and supervisory ranks deminish, so does the quality looking forward do the same. We've now seen UPS institute a series of test and panel interviews in order to pull what they can from the pool we now have. It's ironic some portions of these test are math based as it was assumed and for the most part a good assumption back in the day that any supervisor candidate had at least basic business math skills but that is not the case today. Over the last few years I've also seen more and more incidents of workplace violence or situations so close that they could have easily spilt over into that arena. In years past, this was not impossible but it was not a very uncommon event either. </p><p> </p><p>I think in the drive to maximize profits, UPS took an approach (with the Union's blessing) that if you talk with most frontline level management today they will either privately voice serious concerns (most FT hourlies with any amount of years service seem to mirror those same concerns) or the manager, especially one who is Staff level and up will utter the "no comment" but with a look you can easily read like a 1st grade reader. </p><p> </p><p>I do think the 97' strike had some impact at the time and just after but in the years since that impact has been lessened IMO. I think the much greater impact of the stock and the corp. sexual addiction with meeting a stock price verses doing our jobs and what we promise the customer is the driving force. (no pun to John Force either!) I think that has to do with not so much the people at the top whom many came up through the ranks but their underlings who many have only seen a package car in a picture of as they commute the highways of their own neighborhoods. These underlings are on whom it's relied to feed data, information, info interpretation and finally solutions to these top level managers and if they have no knowledge of the job itself, it's blind luck when they suggest something that actually works.</p><p> </p><p>IMO, it will only get worse as it's taken us years to get where we are and it will take years to get back if we are ever able too!</p><p> </p><p>JMH but <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/sad.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sad:" title="Sad :sad:" data-shortname=":sad:" /> Opinion!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 126067, member: 2189"] hoser, That's changing rapidly and will continue to do so IMO. When UPS started the multi-tier wage scale for PTer's in 1982' the difference in the $8 per hour start and the prior to 82' contract inside PT wage was in the $3 plus neighborhood. With the benefits, etc. you could still draw from the topside of workpool and get good people. As the years have gone by this equation has gottem more and more lopsided to the point today that we in many cases are drawing from the bottom with many a urban hub or center even having to adapt internal security measures as a result that it's alledged many inside PTers are in gangs and as well have criminal records and backgrounds. As your very foundation of your company from which you get your drivers and supervisory ranks deminish, so does the quality looking forward do the same. We've now seen UPS institute a series of test and panel interviews in order to pull what they can from the pool we now have. It's ironic some portions of these test are math based as it was assumed and for the most part a good assumption back in the day that any supervisor candidate had at least basic business math skills but that is not the case today. Over the last few years I've also seen more and more incidents of workplace violence or situations so close that they could have easily spilt over into that arena. In years past, this was not impossible but it was not a very uncommon event either. I think in the drive to maximize profits, UPS took an approach (with the Union's blessing) that if you talk with most frontline level management today they will either privately voice serious concerns (most FT hourlies with any amount of years service seem to mirror those same concerns) or the manager, especially one who is Staff level and up will utter the "no comment" but with a look you can easily read like a 1st grade reader. I do think the 97' strike had some impact at the time and just after but in the years since that impact has been lessened IMO. I think the much greater impact of the stock and the corp. sexual addiction with meeting a stock price verses doing our jobs and what we promise the customer is the driving force. (no pun to John Force either!) I think that has to do with not so much the people at the top whom many came up through the ranks but their underlings who many have only seen a package car in a picture of as they commute the highways of their own neighborhoods. These underlings are on whom it's relied to feed data, information, info interpretation and finally solutions to these top level managers and if they have no knowledge of the job itself, it's blind luck when they suggest something that actually works. IMO, it will only get worse as it's taken us years to get where we are and it will take years to get back if we are ever able too! JMH but :sad: Opinion! [/QUOTE]
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