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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 139618" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group2/clap.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":clap:" title="Clap :clap:" data-shortname=":clap:" /> Excellent Comments Trick!</p><p> </p><p>For those who can rememeber, think about this before you cheer the IPO. On the day the stock went public, UPS got to a high of $77 and several years later it did venture into the mid $80's after a longhaul cycling up and down the low $50's to lower to mid $60's. Now what is the current stock price?</p><p> </p><p>OK, go back to the spring of 1999' before the announcment of the IPO and where was the stock price? Nearing $50 a share so from that point pickup the stock keeping it private and come forward to today using historical trends and taking into account what the company did financially compared to prior historical results. I along with many others believe 2 things would have happened had the stock remained private. 1st) I believe the stock price would be nearly double what is is now or more likely we'd have expereinced 2- 2 for 1 stock splits instead of just one. If you reverse split back to the number of shares in early 99' that would mean a stock price of nearly $200 per share. 2nd) I think the stock remaining private and doing it's own deal would such a good investment that the employees, way more than they are, would be buying stock at every turn and specifically moreso in the employee payroll deduction plan. This would mean a regular influx of funds on a weekly basis that UPS could invest either by buying other companies or building further gains via other shortterm investments and when the time came to buy some company, they could pull the trigger. </p><p> </p><p>All along, there would be a continuing employee investment in the company thereby in effect, buying loyality and giving the employee real incentive to go that extra mile and get some economic payback from it. I also believe that real UPSers instead of Corp. bean counters and Wall Street leeches would be running this company and you'd see far, far more success with things like PAS because the local management and employees could adapt to local conditions rather than being locked into rigid corp. guidelines as they try and force everyone to chase a specific number they think they can only get by their means of operation. I doubt very seriously that any of those people who are making these decisions have the brains to even know how to crankup a package car much less what is involved in the rest of the process. And thus we find ourselves where we are. Anybody really surprised at that?</p><p> </p><p>I'm not! That's also the reason I stopped buying UPS stock about 2 1/2 years ago. FedEx has made me more money in the last 2 years than UPS has since we went IPO. Read it and weep folks, read it and weep!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 139618, member: 2189"] :clap: Excellent Comments Trick! For those who can rememeber, think about this before you cheer the IPO. On the day the stock went public, UPS got to a high of $77 and several years later it did venture into the mid $80's after a longhaul cycling up and down the low $50's to lower to mid $60's. Now what is the current stock price? OK, go back to the spring of 1999' before the announcment of the IPO and where was the stock price? Nearing $50 a share so from that point pickup the stock keeping it private and come forward to today using historical trends and taking into account what the company did financially compared to prior historical results. I along with many others believe 2 things would have happened had the stock remained private. 1st) I believe the stock price would be nearly double what is is now or more likely we'd have expereinced 2- 2 for 1 stock splits instead of just one. If you reverse split back to the number of shares in early 99' that would mean a stock price of nearly $200 per share. 2nd) I think the stock remaining private and doing it's own deal would such a good investment that the employees, way more than they are, would be buying stock at every turn and specifically moreso in the employee payroll deduction plan. This would mean a regular influx of funds on a weekly basis that UPS could invest either by buying other companies or building further gains via other shortterm investments and when the time came to buy some company, they could pull the trigger. All along, there would be a continuing employee investment in the company thereby in effect, buying loyality and giving the employee real incentive to go that extra mile and get some economic payback from it. I also believe that real UPSers instead of Corp. bean counters and Wall Street leeches would be running this company and you'd see far, far more success with things like PAS because the local management and employees could adapt to local conditions rather than being locked into rigid corp. guidelines as they try and force everyone to chase a specific number they think they can only get by their means of operation. I doubt very seriously that any of those people who are making these decisions have the brains to even know how to crankup a package car much less what is involved in the rest of the process. And thus we find ourselves where we are. Anybody really surprised at that? I'm not! That's also the reason I stopped buying UPS stock about 2 1/2 years ago. FedEx has made me more money in the last 2 years than UPS has since we went IPO. Read it and weep folks, read it and weep! [/QUOTE]
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