When does your 30 day probation begin?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by BrownThunder, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    Hey Brothers/Sisters,

    I am a driver in training and am curious about exactly when my 30 day probation began.

    September 27: checked into hotel for Integrad
    October 2: Graduated
    October 5: 1st mentor ride
    October 6: 2nd mentor ride
    October 7-9: ORS Ride Along with participation
    October 12-23: Riding Solo

    At what point did the clock start on my 30 days?

    I want to mark it off on a calendar.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    10/7.
     
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  3. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    Thank you! November 17th I can breathe again.
     
  4. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member


    Not really you could be considered in the free period or time where you can't make your 30 days... So I would check with your shop steward first and make sure you can actually make your 30 days before you decided Nov 17th comes and you can screw off and have nothing to worry about.

    Did you win a posted driving bid (cover or route) or did you get a driving position based on signing the list they post at the beginning of the year of people wanting to go FT ?
     
  5. Browntown2014

    Browntown2014 Active Member

    Um no it's 30 working days. And any days you work from nov 1 to dec 31 (depending on your supplement) do not count.
     
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  6. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    I signed the FT Driver list earlier this year.

    Didn't really intend on screwing off, and I'll likely have more to worry about after passing probation. What I'm pretty sure of, is I will be driving every workday on this route until the above mentioned date.
     
  7. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    We had drivers last year that qualified during Nov. and Dec.
     
  8. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    Umm I didn't count the weekends I know it's 30 working days.

    October 7 - November 17 is exactly 30 working days.

    We will qualify this year.
     
  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    And be working Preload next January. Just when you think the worse is over.
     
  10. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    It's not that you can't qualify it just that they don't have to let you qualify and that all depends on whether they need more drivers...
     
  11. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    Drivers are needed in my center. I don't really care about what happens after probation is over... I just wanted to know when it would be over given the dates I have provided.
     
  12. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    All true. Just saying last peak we had no seasonal PT or FT people. Everyone was hired permanent. Never saw that before.
     
  13. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    If this is indeed true I wouldn't run around telling everyone because someone will make sure you don't make it.....just because they can.

    I would suggest keeping your mouth shut, mark your worked days on a calendar at home and let the time pass. You will find out soon enough when you make seniority.
     
  14. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Good luck.. I would ask your steward for clarification for your specific area. As you you said you signed a list to go FT earlier this year and didn't bid a specific route of cover position open. They could just be using you for peak help. Even if you did Qualify they could still end up laying you off at the end of the year due to not enough volume which usually happens soon after the first of the year when Volume drops and they cut routes as stops per car become the flavor of the month.
     
  15. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Apparently they needed drivers to fill open positions which is good for the PTimers. But I wouldn't count on that being the norm every year...
     
  16. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    This is exactly what I have been doing. I needed to know when my probation would end... So I could mark it off on a calendar.
     
  17. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Don't ask us ask your shop steward the rules could be different in your area than in mine... If you have a copy of your contract read it specifically the supplement portion that covers specific rules and procedures for your area.
     
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  18. Browntown2014

    Browntown2014 Active Member

    Um not if nov 1 to dec 31 doesn't count towards your days working (depending on your supplement)
     
  19. BrownThunder

    BrownThunder Active Member

    Ok. Thanks.
     
  20. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    I agree with upsguy. Post #17.

    It appears you've gotten several different answers so far.

    Management will pay VERY close attention to the number of days you work. They have been known to lay you off on your 29th day to keep you from making seniority and them having to create a route for you.