When does your 30 day probation begin?

[BrownThunder]

Hey Brothers/Sisters,

I am a driver in training and am curious about exactly when my 30 day probation began.

September 27: checked into hotel for Integrad
October 2: Graduated
October 5: 1st mentor ride
October 6: 2nd mentor ride
October 7-9: ORS Ride Along with participation
October 12-23: Riding Solo

At what point did the clock start on my 30 days?

I want to mark it off on a calendar.

Thanks in advance!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

10/7.

 

[BrownThunder]

Thank you! November 17th I can breathe again.

 

[UPSGUY72]

Thank you! November 17th I can breathe again.

Not really you could be considered in the free period or time where you can't make your 30 days... So I would check with your shop steward first and make sure you can actually make your 30 days before you decided Nov 17th comes and you can screw off and have nothing to worry about.

Did you win a posted driving bid (cover or route) or did you get a driving position based on signing the list they post at the beginning of the year of people wanting to go FT ?

 

[Browntown2014]

Thank you! November 17th I can breathe again.

Um no it's 30 working days. And any days you work from nov 1 to dec 31 (depending on your supplement) do not count.

 

[BrownThunder]

I signed the FT Driver list earlier this year.

Didn't really intend on screwing off, and I'll likely have more to worry about after passing probation. What I'm pretty sure of, is I will be driving every workday on this route until the above mentioned date.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Um no it's 30 working days. And any days you work from nov 1 to dec 31 (depending on your supplement) do not count.

We had drivers last year that qualified during Nov. and Dec.

 

[BrownThunder]

Um no it's 30 working days. And any days you work from nov 1 to dec 31 (depending on your supplement) do not count.

Umm I didn't count the weekends I know it's 30 working days.

October 7 - November 17 is exactly 30 working days.

We will qualify this year.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Umm I didn't count the weekends I know it's 30 working days.

October 7 - November 17 is exactly 30 working days.

We will qualify this year.

And be working Preload next January. Just when you think the worse is over.

 

[UPSGUY72]

We had drivers last year that qualified during Nov. and Dec.

It's not that you can't qualify it just that they don't have to let you qualify and that all depends on whether they need more drivers...

 

[BrownThunder]

Drivers are needed in my center. I don't really care about what happens after probation is over... I just wanted to know when it would be over given the dates I have provided.

 

[PT Car Washer]

It's not that you can't qualify it just that they don't have to let you qualify and that all depends on whether they need more drivers...

All true. Just saying last peak we had no seasonal PT or FT people. Everyone was hired permanent. Never saw that before.

 

[trickpony1]

Umm I didn't count the weekends I know it's 30 working days.

October 7 - November 17 is exactly 30 working days.

We will qualify this year.

If this is indeed true I wouldn't run around telling everyone because someone will make sure you don't make it.....just because they can.

I would suggest keeping your mouth shut, mark your worked days on a calendar at home and let the time pass. You will find out soon enough when you make seniority.

 

[UPSGUY72]

I signed the FT Driver list earlier this year.

Didn't really intend on screwing off, and I'll likely have more to worry about after passing probation. What I'm pretty sure of, is I will be driving every workday on this route until the above mentioned date.

Good luck.. I would ask your steward for clarification for your specific area. As you you said you signed a list to go FT earlier this year and didn't bid a specific route of cover position open. They could just be using you for peak help. Even if you did Qualify they could still end up laying you off at the end of the year due to not enough volume which usually happens soon after the first of the year when Volume drops and they cut routes as stops per car become the flavor of the month.

 

[UPSGUY72]

All true. Just saying last peak we had no seasonal PT or FT people. Everyone was hired permanent. Never saw that before.

Apparently they needed drivers to fill open positions which is good for the PTimers. But I wouldn't count on that being the norm every year...

 

[BrownThunder]

This is exactly what I have been doing. I needed to know when my probation would end... So I could mark it off on a calendar.

 

[UPSGUY72]

This is exactly what I have been doing. I needed to know when my probation would end... So I could mark it off on a calendar.

Don't ask us ask your shop steward the rules could be different in your area than in mine... If you have a copy of your contract read it specifically the supplement portion that covers specific rules and procedures for your area.

 

[Browntown2014]

Umm I didn't count the weekends I know it's 30 working days.

October 7 - November 17 is exactly 30 working days.

We will qualify this year.

Um not if nov 1 to dec 31 doesn't count towards your days working (depending on your supplement)

 

[BrownThunder]

Don't ask us ask your shop steward the rules could be different in your area than in mine... If you have a copy of your contract read it specifically the supplement portion that covers specific rules and procedures for your area.

Ok. Thanks.

 

[trickpony1]

This is exactly what I have been doing. I needed to know when my probation would end... So I could mark it off on a calendar

I agree with upsguy. Post #17.

It appears you've gotten several different answers so far.

Management will pay VERY close attention to the number of days you work. They have been known to lay you off on your 29th day to keep you from making seniority and them having to create a route for you.