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<blockquote data-quote="raceanoncr" data-source="post: 574108" data-attributes="member: 6408"><p>One of MY observations over the years is this:</p><p> </p><p>When I started in package car 31 yrs ago, all P/Ters were a little bit below friend/Ters in pay. Whenever WE got a raise, THEY got a raise. That went on for many years, that is, P/Ters were always very close to us in pay. They company expected just as much out of them as they expected out of us and rightly so.</p><p> </p><p>I saw it dramatically change with the lowered starting pay set at $8.00 then $8.50 or whatever it is now. Production in the P/T ranks fell tremendously! At least HERE! We all used to start at 08:35. Now, I understand, some start at that time, some start at 08:45, some at 09:00, some even later. Why? Cuz they can't get wrapped up? Why? Can't push production like before? Why?</p><p> </p><p>Being in feeders for the last 28 years, I've seen the same. We get "On Time Pull Week". Well, that never lasted more than just a day. We've seen pull times set at (off the midnight shift) 0230. Can't get wrapped up. Set it at 0245. Can't get wrapped up. Well, let's set it at 0300 and on and on. Some former 0230 pull times are now as late as 0400! </p><p> </p><p>What does that do to your incoming load? Makes it later. Why? Later load means later unload. Later unload means later pre-load. It's a domino effect. All because (IMO) because UPS just insists (of course as per contract) on paying just $8.50 an hour. </p><p> </p><p>I recall a friend of mine also in feeders now. Was P/Ter many years ago loading trailers. Whilst at turnaround hub a few years ago, he came up to one of his return trailers. The loader was so happy. She told him the hub threw a party for her. Huh? She just made 600! He said, "600 per hour?" cuz I think that's what HE was required to do when he was P/Ter. She said, "No, 600 yesterdays shift". <strong>600 THE WHOLE FRIGGIN SHIFT</strong>! </p><p> </p><p>Danny, to UPS, you are a grain of sand in the Sahara Desert. Sorry, but it seems that ALL ground and most Air is the same to almost ALL business and resi anymore. They ain't gonna change production for you or anybody else. They just can't anymore! Those days are over. </p><p> </p><p>JMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="raceanoncr, post: 574108, member: 6408"] One of MY observations over the years is this: When I started in package car 31 yrs ago, all P/Ters were a little bit below friend/Ters in pay. Whenever WE got a raise, THEY got a raise. That went on for many years, that is, P/Ters were always very close to us in pay. They company expected just as much out of them as they expected out of us and rightly so. I saw it dramatically change with the lowered starting pay set at $8.00 then $8.50 or whatever it is now. Production in the P/T ranks fell tremendously! At least HERE! We all used to start at 08:35. Now, I understand, some start at that time, some start at 08:45, some at 09:00, some even later. Why? Cuz they can't get wrapped up? Why? Can't push production like before? Why? Being in feeders for the last 28 years, I've seen the same. We get "On Time Pull Week". Well, that never lasted more than just a day. We've seen pull times set at (off the midnight shift) 0230. Can't get wrapped up. Set it at 0245. Can't get wrapped up. Well, let's set it at 0300 and on and on. Some former 0230 pull times are now as late as 0400! What does that do to your incoming load? Makes it later. Why? Later load means later unload. Later unload means later pre-load. It's a domino effect. All because (IMO) because UPS just insists (of course as per contract) on paying just $8.50 an hour. I recall a friend of mine also in feeders now. Was P/Ter many years ago loading trailers. Whilst at turnaround hub a few years ago, he came up to one of his return trailers. The loader was so happy. She told him the hub threw a party for her. Huh? She just made 600! He said, "600 per hour?" cuz I think that's what HE was required to do when he was P/Ter. She said, "No, 600 yesterdays shift". [B]600 THE WHOLE FRIGGIN SHIFT[/B]! Danny, to UPS, you are a grain of sand in the Sahara Desert. Sorry, but it seems that ALL ground and most Air is the same to almost ALL business and resi anymore. They ain't gonna change production for you or anybody else. They just can't anymore! Those days are over. JMHO [/QUOTE]
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