Where Is The Coverage?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by big_arrow_up, May 20, 2007.

  1. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Imagine if the roles were reversed here. Al Sharpton and friends would be having a field day with this one.
     
  2. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    If you think about it, it's amazing what the liberal media won't cover.

    Anytime one of our troops is killed in Iraq, it is covered (complete with the updated death toll).

    But don't you think it's strange that the liberal media will never report on insurgents and terrorists killed by our troops? If our liberal media was the only way you could get news, you would have to assume our troops were lining up over there to be killed, and not one insurgent has ever been harmed since we've been there! Our troops ARE killing insurgents every day, but the liberal media doesn't want you to know that.

    I want a daily death toll of killed and captured (OK, just killed) insurgents.
     
  3. Crazy Diamond

    Crazy Diamond Robot Extraordinaire

    Good news doesn't sell commercials. I'm surprised this hasn't been all over the media... Don't get me wrong, I support our troops 100% and I believe in this war on terrorism. I have to, my farther-in-law is over there and I have to know that he's making this sacrifice for a great purpose. However, I'm not sure how many friends we can make over there when, we've got idiots on the loose.
     
  4. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Well, picking the bad apple out of the bunch is a standard tactic among the Liberal Media.
     
  5. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Big,

    We live in an age where the media resorts to the sensational to get those ratings that allow them to charge a higher price per second to advertise. Even on our individual local news cast, how often do we see those good positive stories where someone did something to make a difference that made life better? Instead we see a constant parade of the dregs of society or the trainwreck of human mistakes because we love to see someone brought down and because we love the over the edge stuff. Why is Paris Hilton for example even a story at all or Britney Spears for that matter? Look at the explosion of cop and police chase shows or when some major city has one of those massive police chases and they patch in the live feed to the major networks and guess where we are all?

    Is there good coming from places like Iraq? Oh absolutely, no doubt about it because Americans have their faults and we make mistakes but overall when we come in contact with folks one on one and the other fella is down and out, what is the first thing the average America feels? Compassion. What's the next thought in their head? What can I do to help. Sad we don't live in a world where the TV's turn on to those good stories and the channel changers go into click overload to another station the moment an OJ type police chase hits the airways.
     
  6. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    The fact remains.....if this has been a bunch of white guys and a black couple then this story would have been taken off the back burner very quickly. We'd see Al Sharpton and the Black Panthers come out of the wood work.

    Yes, the media does lean towards "bad news" opposed to "happy news." There are so many good things happening in Iraq but we rarely see it. If ever.
     
  7. SeniorGeek

    SeniorGeek Below the Line

    Yes, I see their point, classifying Al Sharpton as the same sort of opportunist as The National Review and some non-specific white supremacists.

    I find that Associated Press (AP) and CBS News first covered the story on January 12th. (Before the suspects were announced.)

    I find that Fox News covered the story on February 2nd. It must have been pretty low on their priority list, too. They did not cover it until after the suspects' identities had been revealed.

    I suspect that this story did not get a lot of attention - in part - because details were withheld by police. I think it was not classified as a hate crime because the victims were apparently selected for their shiny automobile.

    The police did not think it was a hate crime, and the DA did not think it was a hate crime. Did they get their evidence and their training from the media, is that why the media is to blame for this not being pursued as a hate crime?

    The AP writer from Knoxville who covered the story in January, Duncan Mansfield, last week wrote, "Web sites describe gruesome details that are not in the public record". That makes me think there might be some exaggeration in the blogs. (I have read that blogs are 110% exaggeration, and I believe it.)

    I find a claim that DNA evidence eliminated one of the suspects' rape and murder charges, and that he is no longer being charged by Tennessee. (He is still held on Federal charges as an accessory, for transporting the others.) After reading the affadavit for a warrant to gather his DNA, plus the Grand Jury indictment of the other four, I find this believable.

    But I find lots of information that is not carried by the reputable news sources...which makes me believe it is exaggerated.
    I do not know where you get your fact, but I think it actually qualifies as an opinion. I oppose performing a test of the same situation with races reversed, just to see how the press covers it.

    Guess what comes out of the woodwork when it's alleged that five blacks selected two whites as their victims? I have to use URLs because I am reluctant to even quote many of the things that are said [the reader is warned]:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20080501170001/http://intolerant.wordpress.com/

    http://readthis.wordpress.com/2007/05/13/charlie-daniels-speaks-out-on-channon-christian/ (especially the comments)

    http://readthis.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/suspect-in-channon-christian-murder-in-court/ (again, the comments)

    https://web.archive.org/web/2011101...m/mtnews/archives/2007/05/the_knoxville_h.php
    (some say this guy added sexual mutilation embellishment to the story)

    Below the Mason-Dixon Line, those comments that classify blacks as something less than human are still seen as racist, aren't they? (I mean no offense to those in Maryland and Virginia, who might refer to the Mason-Dixon line in its original role. Sadly, it became a symbol of separatists who wanted to isolate themselves from an evolving world.)


    Good news does not sell nearly as well as horrendous news. Maybe we need to feel indignant about something. What I do not understand is why a movie with an unhappy ending does not sell.

    Maybe someone should start a travel agency that specializes in vacations in Iraq, so people could see all the good stuff first hand! It would be such great publicity, our government might be willing to subsidize the trip!
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2007
  8. SeniorGeek

    SeniorGeek Below the Line

    Me too (but include captured). But don't forget about civilian deaths. The estimates of civilian deaths are in the 64,000 to 600,000 range so far. Could our military leaders be tempted to classify every kill as an insurgent? If we can not get reliable information about civilian deaths, how can we expect to get reliable information about insurgent deaths?

    I am not sure how we tell civilians from insurgents. The people we intend to liberate from [-]Saddam's[/-] al Quaida's [-]dictatorship[/-] grasp are not insurgents, I hope.

    In 2003, our military intelligence estimated 5,000 to 7,000 insurgents were in Iraq. In early 2005, the estimates were 13,000 to 17,000. In late 2005, the estimates were around 30,000. I have not found more-recent estimates. Maybe they have become quiet?

    Of course, if an occupation of the United States caused the deaths of 63,000 Americans in an attempt to weed out 7,000 criminals, many of us would become insurgents against that occupying force. So I can see why the number of insurgents might be rising.
     
  9. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    What? LOL. So you don't agree that if it had been white on black Al Shaprton, or some other fruad, would have been all over them? That is called denial.

    Mason Dixon line? What does that have to do with anything? There is nothing racists about it. It simply means the South. What is the purpose of those rediculous links? Vacations in Iraq? Did you breath in too much of that package dust today?
     
  10. SeniorGeek

    SeniorGeek Below the Line

    Maybe I need to use smaller words and shorter sentences?

    I was noting that the National Review and white supremacists are [-]behaving[/-] acting like Al Sharpnot. I thought I was agreeing with you.
    [sorry about the 4-syllable word, "supremacists", but it came from the article in the link]

    You see, the article points out that Nat'l Review and white supremacists are having a field day with this story, and you point out that Al Sapnorth would have a field day with it. It appeared you were leading us to an analogy.

    I used the word "opportunist", which means something like "One who takes advantage of any opportunity to achieve an end, often with no regard for principles or consequences".
    [sorry about the 4-syllable word in the definition of a 4-syllable word, but I was just quoting a definition I found on the web]

    I think that "fraud" connotes that Al Shatporn had knowledge that he took part in deception, and intended that very deception. I have not paid enough attention to Rev. Shoprant's activities to know if anyone has revealed that he did not really believe what he was saying. Is there something they're calling "Al Shparton's Downing Street Memo"?


    I searched for the words of others to find the best fit for the impression I get from the term, and I think many others get a similar impression. In the words of a Mason-Dixon Line historian:
    Mason & Dixon did not define the South, but their line became a symbol for division of America. The image that Mason-Dixon now conjures up is based on the colloquial use - which refers to the Confederate States' attempt to secede.

    I think that most of us outside The South see "South of the Mason-Dixon Line" as a term that implies a certain nostalgia for the attempt to divide America. Many see it as a yearning for the days when one could easily tell something about a person by skin color. It may not be the message that is sent, but it is how it is commonly received.


    The purpose of links is to make your computer show you a different website. You click on them to make it happen. Please avoid clicking on any link promising a free vacation.

    My purpose in posting those links was to show what this rant-about-whites-killed-by-blacks brought out of the woodwork...but I wanted to avoid repeating the vile things that are being said. Follow those links at your own risk.

    Does package dust show up in a pee test? I know they have some pretty sophisticated tests nowadays - they can detect anything from Asparagus to Zoloft.

    I like that word, "rediculous". What a grrrrreat combination of "red state" and "ridiculous"!
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2007
  11. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    Originally Posted by big_arrow_up
    Mason Dixon line? What does that have to do with anything? There is nothing racists about it. It simply means the South.
    Seinorgeek Qoute:

    I searched for the words of others to find the best fit for the impression I get from the term, and I think many others get a similar impression. In the words of a Mason-Dixon Line historian:

    Quote:
    Unfortunately, the true work of Mason and Dixon has been buried beneath the association with North vs. South and Slave vs. Free states.

    Mason & Dixon did not define the South, but their line became a symbol for division of America. The image that Mason-Dixon now conjures up is based on the colloquial use - which refers to the Confederate States' attempt to secede.

    I think that most of us outside The South see "South of the Mason-Dixon Line" as a term that implies a certain nostalgia for the attempt to divide America. Many see it as a yearning for the days when one could easily tell something about a person by skin color. It may not be the message that is sent, but it is how it is commonly received.


    Who brought up the White - Black issue here with this thread?

    Who divides the participents in The Brown Cafe "Current Events" Forum?(Even though its good to debate)
    The same individuals who try to divide America?

    I'd say Mason-Dixon Line reveals some truth about Individuals who choose that term to ellaborate their locations.If not sub-consciencely but with sub-liminal overtones one may not realize there implications.

    This is our America not Hannity's America!
     
  12. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    You are starting to get very boring. Well, actually....you already were. These long, pointless, useless rants of yours are getting us no where. Please move on. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Accept it.
     
  13. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    Originally Posted by big_arrow_up
    Mason Dixon line? What does that have to do with anything? There is nothing racists about it. It simply means the South.

    Just for your information,Senior Geek and Myself were not pointing out useless ,boring ,Liberal rants on this peticular issue.As a matter of fact, this issue has nothing to do with liberalism,but has eveything to do with bigotry.Conservative bigotry is a mental disorder.Accept it.NOW lets move on.
     
  14. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Yet another Liberal tactic. Pulling out the Bigotry Card. You guys are all so predictable. Did you take the time to read over the "How to Debate a Liberal" thread? It's amazing how it seems to be a blue print for your line of thinking. Changing the subject, which is what happened when mentioning the Mazon Dixon line, and trying to make the other side look like bigots couldn't have mirrored the blue print any clearer. So, moving on....
     
  15. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Even a snub like this won’t stop the liberal MSM from being Obama’s biggest cheerleaders.
    Via WFB:
    Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter argued Sunday that People Magazine is “equally important” as the White House press corps.

    Mainstream media outlets have criticized President Obama in recent weeks for refusing to take questions from the White House press corps. Obama has not taken questions from the press corps in eight weeks, but he has been interviewed by People and “Entertainment Tonight.”
     
  16. Necropostophiliac

    Necropostophiliac Well-Known Member

    Ahhh an older thread brought back up.
    But it fits the post. :happy-very:

    The mainstream media still backs him though.

    It is so true below for most who voted for him, and will vote for him this November:
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  17. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

  18. Lue C Fur

    Lue C Fur Evil member