Why Senior Employees Should Be Pro-Union

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by MrFedEx, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    I'm topped-out, and very senior, and obviously very pro-union. It's pretty hard for me to understand other senior employees who don't favor a union, and let me explain why:

    1. Even if you topped-out 25 years ago, Fred has still been paying you 5 or 6 dollars less than UPS, and the disparity grows if you're not in a major market. You are also paying very high rates for poor medical and dental coverage.

    2. He eliminated your Traditional Pension Plan. A 25-year Traditional Pension payout is about half what a UPS pension is for the same number of years. Fred has bent you over big-time here.

    3. Profit-sharing--gone

    4. Injuries and sickness. As you get older, the target on your back glows even more brightly. Don't believe me? Ask someone who has been hurt or has had a serious illness, regardless of years with the company.

    5. The predatory nature of FedEx. You are always one minor mis-step away from the door. Open Door and GFT are pale comparisons to a legitimate grievance process. "At-will" means FedEx's will, not yours.

    6. They want you gone. Topped-out and over 45 means you're a liability, not an asset. Always be aware that they would much rather kill you off and replace you with two 20-somethings.

    As a human being, consider your co-workers and their situation(s). Compared to you, they've got very little and no real retirement plan or decent future on the horizon.

    FedEx has been stealing from your pile for a very long time, and maybe you think you've "made-it" at Express. Well, you haven't, and if you think you've somehow "beat" Fred or are getting a square deal, you are sadly mistaken. There is nothing they would rather do than get rid of you.

    Be smart and sign that card.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2013
  2. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

    Our insurance plan is pretty much a bullseye on the more senior employees and their families.

    Besides paying several grand a year in premiums, the co pays and out of pockets are enough to bankrupt just about anyone should they fall ill to something more serious than a cold...
     
  3. Route 66

    Route 66 Flacid Member

    I'm also topped out and very senior and I'm more fired up to see a union get in to this s#it hole than most of those with far less years in than me. You're right, MFE. Those other senior employees who think they're sitting pretty are simply delusional. I don't know about the rest of these guys, but MY health isn't getting better with the years that's for damn sure.
     
  4. The truth is spoken:youreright::youreright:
     
  5. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Is it possible that if Express organized the union would end up negotiating a contract better for the new and mid-range and worse for those topped out? If so, is that a sacrifice you would make?
     
  6. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    How much is FedEx paying you to be a union buster?
     
  7. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Do you seny that very real possibility? Better to get the answer here than when your coworkers ask.
     
  8. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Yeah just look how bad the UPS senior couriers have it . Is that all you got ? I don't think FedEx is getting their money's worth out of you.
     
  9. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Somebody brought it up in another thread when discussing organizing another company. Number one question was how much they would make. Honest organizers had to say they had no idea. Negotiating is from square one
     
  10. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    How are you supposed to have a specific number before you actually negotiate? The key word being negotiate. Is everybody going to get 100 percent off everything they want ? Of course not. But it's obviously a better process than we have now which is exactly no say so.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2013
  11. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member


    I seny it! Anyways, if things hold true to form, the company will show proof that they can only afford to give more to 20+ year employees, the topped out people would insist they deserve more because of seniority, and mid-range people will just have to wait their turn. But they will expect us to get out on the picket line with them and pay dues.
     
  12. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    Stop being a victim and get paid what you deserve.
     
  13. vantexan

    vantexan Well-Known Member

    You can't get a union in so it's a moot point.
     
  14. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    I think bb, aka Mr. Union buster, got him MFE.
    You gotta feel sorry for people like that.
     
  15. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    So how many signed cards have you dropped off at the local union hall, SPH?
     
  16. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't you like to know. Sorry that's privileged info. Not for a union buster.
     
  17. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    You still haven't explained what makes me a union buster. Nothing I have said has been a lie.
     
  18. CJinx

    CJinx Well-Known Member

    In other words, none. Slacktivism at it's finest on these forums. lol
     
  19. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    RPS once had some terminals in Michigan that voted in a union. When the contractors didn't get the settlement increases that the rest of the company got because negotiations were ongoing, they decertified the union. Forewarned is forearmed. Even after Express becomes organized, tension and questions will remain.b nothing wrong with getting answers upfront.
     
  20. MAKAVELI

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    All this union talk sure gets you ground guys panties all in a bunch doesn't it?