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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 88102" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>They shoulda done that before we had the mass exodus to FDX and RPS. From what I understand in our area one of the ex UPS sups took all the pickup sheets out of the logs one Friday and sold it to RPS. Had all the contact information, number of pickup pieces picked up that week etc all in easy to read format.</p><p> </p><p>Then add all the experience that our ex employees added to FDX and RPS when they both first started (yes there were drivers that went over to them, esp FDX when they first opened in our area, we lost 12 senior drivers to them in less than 8 months) and you have a real leg up on getting business away from UPS. All of these drivers (and management) could have retired at least 5 years, and in some cases 15 years ago had they stayed with UPS. But it was so bad at that time that making less and working longer was a better choice.</p><p> </p><p>So yes, I can see where you have to sign a paper saying you will not leak secrets to the enemy, or we will sue you for all we can get.</p><p> </p><p>Remember also, with rare exception it is not "UPS" that is a bitch to work for, it is the management that is above us that wants to make it a tough place to exist. In some cases that management is not all that bad and working conditions and the whole working environment are very much improved.</p><p> </p><p>Take a driver that is not a team player, breaks all the rules so he can accomplish his personal goals, a driver whose people skills and personal integrity suck, and make him a manager. Send him to "people school" teach him all the tricks to get under the drivers skin while skirting the contract, and you see where the problem lies with many of our management team. And some of these stay awake at night dreaming up new ways to make life miserable for those under them.</p><p> </p><p>But we have others that will bend over backward to help each driver, and as long as you give them an honest days work for a days pay, nothing ever gets said.</p><p> </p><p>But I digress.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 88102, member: 484"] They shoulda done that before we had the mass exodus to FDX and RPS. From what I understand in our area one of the ex UPS sups took all the pickup sheets out of the logs one Friday and sold it to RPS. Had all the contact information, number of pickup pieces picked up that week etc all in easy to read format. Then add all the experience that our ex employees added to FDX and RPS when they both first started (yes there were drivers that went over to them, esp FDX when they first opened in our area, we lost 12 senior drivers to them in less than 8 months) and you have a real leg up on getting business away from UPS. All of these drivers (and management) could have retired at least 5 years, and in some cases 15 years ago had they stayed with UPS. But it was so bad at that time that making less and working longer was a better choice. So yes, I can see where you have to sign a paper saying you will not leak secrets to the enemy, or we will sue you for all we can get. Remember also, with rare exception it is not "UPS" that is a bitch to work for, it is the management that is above us that wants to make it a tough place to exist. In some cases that management is not all that bad and working conditions and the whole working environment are very much improved. Take a driver that is not a team player, breaks all the rules so he can accomplish his personal goals, a driver whose people skills and personal integrity suck, and make him a manager. Send him to "people school" teach him all the tricks to get under the drivers skin while skirting the contract, and you see where the problem lies with many of our management team. And some of these stay awake at night dreaming up new ways to make life miserable for those under them. But we have others that will bend over backward to help each driver, and as long as you give them an honest days work for a days pay, nothing ever gets said. But I digress. d [/QUOTE]
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