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<blockquote data-quote="Dogbite56" data-source="post: 148716" data-attributes="member: 7244"><p>WildGoose, you talk about the double and triple pensions. Be specific in whom you are referring. It is something that has been going on since well before even Jr. Hoffa's dad was leader. I have little doubt that it goes on in most, if not all, other unions. There is also the problem of underfunded pensions. If there is that problem, it can only be the fault of the fund management, and their Boards of Directors. Not to mention the Bread and Circuses expectations of the members who vote for a 25 and out or some other irresponsible pension scheme. The actions of the managers should only be influenced by what the actuaries (CERTIFIED) tell them. I seem to recall that someone pinned some of the blame on Ron Carey. The only thing that was underfunded on his watch was the strike fund. He at least was working at getting away from the double-, triple- and more multiple- dipping that was, and is, still prevalent. Yes, it would be nice if we could get some of the guaranteed pensions that someone at the local or regional level of the union gets just for being on a committee. I shudder to think what someone at the national level gets, because I'm certain they get on that many more. But to get rid of the practice, we have to VOTE when the elections come up. It would also help if we could get some decent candidates, other than a management lawyer (Hoffa), who might have other than their own interests at heart.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dogbite56, post: 148716, member: 7244"] WildGoose, you talk about the double and triple pensions. Be specific in whom you are referring. It is something that has been going on since well before even Jr. Hoffa's dad was leader. I have little doubt that it goes on in most, if not all, other unions. There is also the problem of underfunded pensions. If there is that problem, it can only be the fault of the fund management, and their Boards of Directors. Not to mention the Bread and Circuses expectations of the members who vote for a 25 and out or some other irresponsible pension scheme. The actions of the managers should only be influenced by what the actuaries (CERTIFIED) tell them. I seem to recall that someone pinned some of the blame on Ron Carey. The only thing that was underfunded on his watch was the strike fund. He at least was working at getting away from the double-, triple- and more multiple- dipping that was, and is, still prevalent. Yes, it would be nice if we could get some of the guaranteed pensions that someone at the local or regional level of the union gets just for being on a committee. I shudder to think what someone at the national level gets, because I'm certain they get on that many more. But to get rid of the practice, we have to VOTE when the elections come up. It would also help if we could get some decent candidates, other than a management lawyer (Hoffa), who might have other than their own interests at heart. [/QUOTE]
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