WI Gubernatorial Recall Election

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by brownmonster, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    The Goober won again.
     
  2. OptimusPrime

    OptimusPrime Active Member

    Gotta love it. I should run for public office, and my only platform will be "I HATE UNIONS!!!" Will probably get me elected. Especially in the wonderful now "Right to Work" state that is Indiana.

    It's a funny thing, the whole union hate. Seems 99% of it comes from butthurts who just hate the fact we get paid well.
     
  3. Thebrownstreak

    Thebrownstreak Active Member

    Thanks to millions and millions of out of state dollars.
     
  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    But they lost!
     
  5. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    That's funny.
     
  6. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Out of state dollars don't vote!
     
  7. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Active Member

    Couldn't possibly be that people of Wisconsin agree with the man, like the man, supported and then defended the man. Can't be that. It just can't.

    It's only the money.
     
  8. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    The man promised something. The man was deliveing what he promised. Obama could learn from him!!!
     
  9. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    The problem was Barrett. People didn't vote for him, they voted against Walker.
     
  10. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Walker outspent Barrett 7-1, that's a huge edge. It may not have been the only factor but if you think elections haven't become almost entirely about the money in this country you haven't been paying attention. If you outspend your opponent by the amount that Walker outspent Barrett it's pretty much a guaranteed win. There's a reason that the upcoming presidential election is shaping up to be the most expensive in history. Money talks.
     
  11. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    LOL. "Money talks." I'm sure the "Citizens United" case had a much more in depth decision attached to it, but "Money talks" sums it up brilliantly. I wonder if the SCOTUS realizes how blatantly sad that is.
     
  12. preload1

    preload1 Member

    Great victory yesterday. Today it was morning in America again.
     
  13. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    It could just be the people want their state's budget to be more balanced and don't want to be bankrupted by the public unions and their demands on the state's coffers. Money or no money,that was the 'idea' they voted for.
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2012
  14. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    You are right, it can't simply be what the people wanted. No way could it be the people actually voting how they felt. Its all the money's fault!
     
  15. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    wow really? How about the fact that taxpayers dollars pay for all those public union benifits? I love my union but private and public unions are like comparing apples and oranges.
     
  16. upsman2940

    upsman2940 New Member

    I agree!
     
  17. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    But did the money really make a difference?

    Requiem For A Recall: Money Likely Not Key To Walker Win - Forbes
    When you see exit polls indicating that Wisconsin’s voters favor President Obama over his GOP challenger by 12 points and yet hand a 7 point victory to Governor Walker—the poster boy for today’s GOP philosophy—there is no question but that something quite unusual was going on.

    Not to take anything away from Governor Walker, who certainly has his legions of supporters in the state as was proven last night, it is a very real possibility that the true margin of victory might belong to those who voted their anger with the process rather than their commitment to the Governor or objection to his challenger. And while I may not personally favor the outcome, I have to say that I kind of like that so many Wisconsinites stood up for what they believed was a principle of fairness and made their decision accordingly.
     
  18. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    60% of voters said that recalls should be used only in the case of misconduct. 10% say recalls are never appropriate.

    Walker is a douche, but he did not do anything that could be construed as misconduct (as governor, we'll have to see how the other investigation goes....) It would appear that many are saying, "He won the election, let him govern, unless there is misconduct, no recall."

    I can see that.

    It should also be noted that according to exit polls, 37% of union households voted for him. That is pretty sad.
     
  19. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

  20. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    The one observation of this article that I would totally discount is the Pro-Obama
    ... last night’s electorate favored the president over Mitt Romney by a significant margin, 52 percent to 43 percent. It’s a smaller margin than 2008, where he won the state by 14 points, but it’s a solid performance, and a sign that — in reality — Wisconsin is less vulnerable than it looks. Indeed, as of last night, President Obama’s Wisconsin effort is in great shape, and conservatives should temper their view of their chances in the state ...
    Walker was being ousted yesterday by the same exit polls yet he retained office handily.
    Wisconsin may be in Obama's corner but not by 14 points.

    Another thing, I think people are trying to make this a "hate Unions" vote but that is wrong on 2 counts:
    1) Walker only curtailed the powers of Government Employee Union powers. Even FDR did not like Government Employee Unions.
    2) As barnyard said in an earlier post, "60% of voters said that recalls should be used only in the case of misconduct. 10% say recalls are never appropriate.

    Trying to discern anything other than the fact that Walker retained his job, is really a shot in the dark.

    I like the idea that the voters seemed to be feeding the pollsters a line of crap.