WikiLeaks released more than half a million U.S. diplomatic cables from the year 1979.

wkmac

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"If any year could be said to be the ‘year zero’ of our modern era, 1979 is it,” WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said in a press release."

In a very real sense, Assange is correct. This was also the year, July 3rd 1979 to be exact, that the United States crossed the Rubicon when then President Carter issued a then secret directive ordering US aid through covert means to radical Islamic forces that would become the operative means of global Islamic terrorism and radical jihadism. Here we are almost 40 years later and as a result our world has completely changed as a result. As a sidenote, Reagan is often and conveniently blamed for starting what we know today as radical jihadism and Reagan did amp it up to new levels but Democrat apologists quite often, for convenience sake, forget their own history and for political advantage blame Reagan when the brunt of the blame is something they own.

Adding to the pressure, on December 26, 1979 President Carter green lights Pakistan's Nuclear Weapons Program which introduced the region to nuclear weapons and thus a problem we now face in a potentially vast expanded form.

One can read more of the entire 1979' timeline at History Commons but should also consider Operation Cyclone of William Blum's exposé of the events of that era.
 

rickyb

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"If any year could be said to be the ‘year zero’ of our modern era, 1979 is it,” WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said in a press release."

In a very real sense, Assange is correct. This was also the year, July 3rd 1979 to be exact, that the United States crossed the Rubicon when then President Carter issued a then secret directive ordering US aid through covert means to radical Islamic forces that would become the operative means of global Islamic terrorism and radical jihadism. Here we are almost 40 years later and as a result our world has completely changed as a result. As a sidenote, Reagan is often and conveniently blamed for starting what we know today as radical jihadism and Reagan did amp it up to new levels but Democrat apologists quite often, for convenience sake, forget their own history and for political advantage blame Reagan when the brunt of the blame is something they own.

Adding to the pressure, on December 26, 1979 President Carter green lights Pakistan's Nuclear Weapons Program which introduced the region to nuclear weapons and thus a problem we now face in a potentially vast expanded form.

One can read more of the entire 1979' timeline at History Commons but should also consider Operation Cyclone of William Blum's exposé of the events of that era.
yea i also heard that jimmy carter started the neoliberalism programs which reagan continued with.
 

rickyb

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A liberal messianic interpretation of Neo from the Matix?
'CIA created ISIS', says Julian Assange as Wikileaks releases 500k US cables

"He said: "If any year could be said to be the "year zero" of our modern era, 1979 is it."

Mr Assange said a decision by the CIA, together with Saudi Arabia, to plough billions of dollars into arming the Mujahideen fighters in Afghanistan to tackle the Soviet Union, had led to the creation of terror group al-Qaeda.

This, in turn, he said led to the 9/11 terror strikes, the invasion of Afghanhistan and Iraq by the US, and the creation of ISIS."
 

wkmac

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yea i also heard that jimmy carter started the neoliberalism programs which reagan continued with.

That is fairly accurate statement which interestingly enough both liberal democrats, those especially who dislike Reagan and his brand of so-called conservatism, along with conservative republicans, who see Reagan as some type of god-man, like to conveniently forget since that idea negatively effects their own narratives of history.

In circa 2000', the Mises Institute, a libertarian free market think tank dedicated to the ideas of the Austrian Economic School economist Ludwig Von Mises, published a piece entitled, "Rethinking Carter" that revisits President Carter and his economic policies and IMO rightly gives the man credit for what he actually did and started. Whether good or bad depends on the person reading the results.

As the years have gone by since, more has been written and discussed as it relates to giving Carter credit as opposed to dumping it all on Reagan. And just as both sides of the isle wanted the truth buried about Carter, so too they did work in unison in crafting an illusion of Reagan that also had many holes in it. An illusion that happen to fit both their political agendas and in hiding their own true misdeeds and false advertising to voters.

I also give credit to President Carter who not only lent his labor but his name to Habitat for Humanity that IMO clearly shows one model of grass roots, voluntary, spontaneous action that helps to solve a human problem without the need of a State program that requires force of coercion of others to achieve its goals. Part of the reason I've always considered Carter as the greatest Ex-President. That and he's a woodworker! ;)

As for Neo-liberalism, BIG SUBJECT and too big to go into here. Maybe another time, another thread dedicated to the issue itself.
 

rickyb

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That is fairly accurate statement which interestingly enough both liberal democrats, those especially who dislike Reagan and his brand of so-called conservatism, along with conservative republicans, who see Reagan as some type of god-man, like to conveniently forget since that idea negatively effects their own narratives of history.

In circa 2000', the Mises Institute, a libertarian free market think tank dedicated to the ideas of the Austrian Economic School economist Ludwig Von Mises, published a piece entitled, "Rethinking Carter" that revisits President Carter and his economic policies and IMO rightly gives the man credit for what he actually did and started. Whether good or bad depends on the person reading the results.

As the years have gone by since, more has been written and discussed as it relates to giving Carter credit as opposed to dumping it all on Reagan. And just as both sides of the isle wanted the truth buried about Carter, so too they did work in unison in crafting an illusion of Reagan that also had many holes in it. An illusion that happen to fit both their political agendas and in hiding their own true misdeeds and false advertising to voters.

I also give credit to President Carter who not only lent his labor but his name to Habitat for Humanity that IMO clearly shows one model of grass roots, voluntary, spontaneous action that helps to solve a human problem without the need of a State program that requires force of coercion of others to achieve its goals. Part of the reason I've always considered Carter as the greatest Ex-President. That and he's a woodworker! ;)

As for Neo-liberalism, BIG SUBJECT and too big to go into here. Maybe another time, another thread dedicated to the issue itself.
yea maybe another reason reagan got more blame was because he was full blown whereas carter was just getting it started, i dunno.
 
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