Will hall distance himself from Hoffa as 2016 gets closer

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Ron Carey lives on, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    After playing second fiddle to hoffa and Carey. Just wondering if you guys think he will try some damage control on the Ups concessinary contract?

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  2. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Why would he ?

    Fred, Sandy, and company.... already have a losing record.

    And, UPS people don't vote.



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  3. Nope. You are obviously new to the game. You might have just woken up with this last contract. Ups people don't vote. So the couple people that will vote from ups doesn't equate to how you feel personally about the situation.

    When you compare the compensation package the we at ups receive as a whole compared to the rest in the teamster union or any other union as well as non union it's head and shoulders above the rest. Not only is there no sympathy for us but we should stop feeling sorry for our selves. We should be more worried about all these republican governors who want to turn this country into a right to work country.

    Upsers who cry about being compensated between 100,000 and 145,000 in wages and benefits make unions look bad as a whole.
     
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  4. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Absolutely, the most concise summation I have read.

    That is the difference, between chess ♛.... and checkers. :biggrin:



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  5. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    Whatever. I bet you said the same thing when we made $20 an hour too. According to your logic, we should just shut up and be happy with whatever crumbs UPS throws at us. Sad and pathetic.
     
  6. Whatever. People don't want to hear what they don't want to hear. When I was making 20 an hour the country and the world were totally different. Pre pre 9/11. Economy was booming. Right to work wasn't a threat and the country's views on unions were good. There were tons of manufacturing jobs. You my friend have your eyes closed to the evolution of the times. Sorry
     
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    He has his union blinders on.
     
  8. Yea but it only ups union people. Other union people in other industries aren't like this. It's almost like we have lived so high on the hog that that we've really lost touch. I mean I know I get it but a lot of people just don't.
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    UAW members used to have the same sense of entitlement.
     
  10. We have always made good money. but when you get a 2% raise and 5% more work,and less jobs. do we ever really,get ahead?

    And the harassment has gone up, 300%
     
  11. The economy crashed. It happened everywhere. We are coming out of it now but in an anti union America now. That tough guy union mentality isn't the same as it used to be. You have to evolve if you want to survive sometimes. Some think this is weak but people who understand things recognize it as learning to fight again another day. This is a different world now a days. Big business want to cut your throat and take away your livelihood.
     
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  12. I understand that. but at the same time,the union lost alot of power!

    UPS knows it, and will keep pushing us harder. and more concessions in future contracts.
     
  13. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!
     
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  14. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    Do the partimers get compensated that? Are there not more partimers making unlivable wages then fulltimers? {edited}
     
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  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    A part time job is not meant to be your sole source of income.
     
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  16. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    Mr. Bojangles forgot that the Teamster loading his truck doesn't make what he makes. But more so that over 50% of UPSers are part time making a horrible wage. But his {edited} only thinks about himself.
     
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  17. Hawfuh Sux

    Hawfuh Sux Old Guard Assassin!

    You sound like management personnel.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    There are PTers on this forum who make $25/hr (plus benefits) or more.
     
  19. muthatrucka

    muthatrucka Member

    Part timers need to voice their opinions. They haven't had a voice in the last 2 contracts. Guess they might wake up now after an average job turning less than average.


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  20. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    The union list power because people don't care. The don't show up to union meetings, proposal meetings, ratification meetings and don't realize the union got them the holiday they enjoyed last Monday. People can't just keep blaming the union and talking tough on a forum.