Will Hall distance himself from Hoffa as 2016 gets closer

My problem is the teamsters don't need to be using my money from ups to subsidize other teamsters pension and healthcare.

With all the money ups gives the union if it all just went to us we would pay nothing for insurance ever and our pension would be huge.
Or teamcrap! they spent 6 billion to get out of the Central states retirement plan.

And shove us into,Central states healthcare!

Wtf, wake up people!
 

Brownslave688

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Or teamcrap! they spent 6 billion to get out of the Central states retirement plan.

And shove us into,Central states healthcare!

Wtf, wake up people!
I didn't realize teamcare isn't just the teamsters insurance for ups it's every teamsters insurance. So they are pooling all of our money together. Basically socialist.

Ups puts more money in than anyone else so my insurance should be better.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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The day they do this, yours and my pension will be no higher than 3,500 a month. Not the 5k you will receive as it is now. As I said, if Hoffa is general pres. There will never be a strike. It will be the same if Hall is pres.

UPS bought out New England and their projected pensions remained the same. New hires would see the reduction.
 

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UPS bought out New England and their projected pensions remained the same. New hires would see the reduction.


So your saying you are good with that? I want pensions better each year. Why should the drivers of the future pay your and my pension? While they will never make a pension like ours. With a UPS pension grab
 

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Our pension used to be $7K/month. It is now just over $5K/month. $3.5-4K/month is still better than most plans.

That is what I'm explaining to you. You and I will get the great pension. If UPS buys our plan there is no sense to have a union. It's about control of the pension. The union loses whatever leverage it would have. The day this does. I will feel sorry for the new driver if it happens
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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That is what I'm explaining to you. You and I will get the great pension. If UPS buys our plan there is no sense to have a union. It's about control of the pension. The union loses whatever leverage it would have. The day this does. I will feel sorry for the new driver if it happens

Our new guys have already been told to expect a much lower pension.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
That is what I'm explaining to you. You and I will get the great pension. If UPS buys our plan there is no sense to have a union. It's about control of the pension. The union loses whatever leverage it would have. The day this does. I will feel sorry for the new driver if it happens
It's all about the union spreading out my wealth.

Not something I'm fond of.
 
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