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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 554586" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Soberups,</p><p></p><p>I read a very good article <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ghazvinian/iran-and-america-the-spir_b_218683.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">here</span></a> that supports exactly what you just said and it uses a bit of 100 year old history to make the point. I wouldn't vote for Obama for dog catcher but with the Iranian uprising, so far IMO he's for the most part is doing the right thing. However, Obama's not restrained from following some of what Tie is suggesting <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-25-iran-money_N.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">in some manner</span></a> (I think it's a mistake) although it's just being played a bit more low key. I don't think Obama is at the point of taking the approach like we did in Waco or with Noriega and blasting out Ahmadinejad with American "rock & roll" mind you but it's obvious he's quitely taking up "again" the Bush doctrine approach when it comes to Iran.</p><p></p><p>Also, by sticking our nose in ever farther and understanding our own past self destructive path regarding this region, our actions would only further<span style="color: #000000"> these type of allegations </span>giving them legs for the existing gov't to use as propaganda. Former Military Intel/CIA officer Philip Giraldi has said it well that with Iran, we should stay out and I agree, especially given our own govt's history over there.</p><p></p><p>Besides, as is pointed out, our history of meddling in this nation's affairs with very bad results is such that if it looks as if we've choosen a side, it could actually harm the cause. I think Tie's idea means well and has good intentions but I think if we stay out, the Iranian people have a better chance. That's MO anyway.</p><p></p><p>Tie,</p><p></p><p>Good point about "the idiots running that country" and it just makes my point that this is just more proof that the American people and Iranian people do share a whole lot more in common than we realize!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 554586, member: 2189"] Soberups, I read a very good article [URL='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ghazvinian/iran-and-america-the-spir_b_218683.html'][COLOR=red]here[/COLOR][/URL] that supports exactly what you just said and it uses a bit of 100 year old history to make the point. I wouldn't vote for Obama for dog catcher but with the Iranian uprising, so far IMO he's for the most part is doing the right thing. However, Obama's not restrained from following some of what Tie is suggesting [URL='http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-25-iran-money_N.htm'][COLOR=red]in some manner[/COLOR][/URL] (I think it's a mistake) although it's just being played a bit more low key. I don't think Obama is at the point of taking the approach like we did in Waco or with Noriega and blasting out Ahmadinejad with American "rock & roll" mind you but it's obvious he's quitely taking up "again" the Bush doctrine approach when it comes to Iran. Also, by sticking our nose in ever farther and understanding our own past self destructive path regarding this region, our actions would only further[COLOR=#000000] these type of allegations [/COLOR]giving them legs for the existing gov't to use as propaganda. Former Military Intel/CIA officer Philip Giraldi has said it well that with Iran, we should stay out and I agree, especially given our own govt's history over there. Besides, as is pointed out, our history of meddling in this nation's affairs with very bad results is such that if it looks as if we've choosen a side, it could actually harm the cause. I think Tie's idea means well and has good intentions but I think if we stay out, the Iranian people have a better chance. That's MO anyway. Tie, Good point about "the idiots running that country" and it just makes my point that this is just more proof that the American people and Iranian people do share a whole lot more in common than we realize! :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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