Will TeamCare cost Hoffa/Hall their reelection?
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dumptheoldguardteamsters
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Big bad wolf? or Irishman Collins?
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bloody hell! what does that mean in the Queens English?
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mate, do you have ANY idea how MUCH better the Contracts are then they were in the 80's and Early 90's? Fulltime Pay has gone up at a much higher percentage under the contracts hall has negotiated,as well as harassment language( fair days work for days pay) ,steadily improving 9.5 language in the past two or three contracts as well as forced creation of FT jobs and 22.3 jobs.
I rather think you and the Anti Hoffa Lot are the ones snorting the powder
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to those that disagree with the post, how many contracts have you worked under? i'm curious because i;d be very surprised if one did
Are you kidding me? Hall Is a spinless Davis puppet!
Give backs give backs.
The pendulum has swung the other way (not in our favor)
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I sense a bit of 'sour grapes' in your posts over the last contract,but prior to that how many have you worked under?
hall has made GREAT gains on the side of the hourlies when you compare the contracts that were negotiated when Presser,Mathis et al were in power . For example in 1987 we got .30/.30.30 for raises, and no relief of the 3-1 Fulltime Hiring. there was NO harassment or 9.5 language either. it was a crappy contract, but because even though the majority opposed it it fell short of the 2/3 needed to
can it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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What was wrong with the 3:1 hiring process?
Resident know-it-all.
Resident know-it-all.
Yes I rember dump the lump.I sense a bit of 'sour grapes' in your posts over the last contract,but prior to that how many have you worked under?
hall has made GREAT gains on the side of the hourlies when you compare the contracts that were negotiated when Presser,Mathis et al were in power . For example in 1987 we got .30/.30.30 for raises, and no relief of the 3-1 Fulltime Hiring. there was NO harassment or 9.5 language either. it was a crappy contract, but because even though the majority opposed it it fell short of the 2/3 needed to
Yes we got 9.5 languge for some people, but not for everyone.
How did we lose discipline to technology? that was a huge step backwards.
The starting wage for part timers is a big joke. $8 dollars 30 years ago and on $10 dollars now?
Harassment, unrealistic production standards.
Yes we make more money, but our raises havent caught up, with the amount of extra work we do!
Not to mention,the retirees that got
all over.And yes you are correct, Hoffa and Hall piss me the
. off!
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It was unfair to those of us working inside. The 80's saw a HUGE increase in hiring and many inside employees got shafted when some guy fresh off the streets got the job we were all waiting for,and later when were were able to finally go FT had FT seniority over those of us who'd already been with the company
No offense directed at you or any other off the street driver meant by my post . I was already FT when the ratio was changed,but would love to see it go even higher to give these kids whi have been PT for many years the shot at a FT position
DriveInDriveOut
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so this was the first contract you have seen ratified?Yes I rember dump the lump.
Yes we got 9.5 languge for some people, but not for everyone.
How did we lose discipline to technology? that was a huge step backwards.
The starting wage for part timers is a big joke. $8 dollars 30 years ago and on $10 dollars now?
Harassment, unrealistic production standards.
Yes we make more money, but our raises havent caught up, with the amount of extra work we do!
Not to mention,the retirees that got
And yes you are correct, Hoffa and Hall piss me the
not putting you down,and if i come across that way its not intentional. it's simply i can make some very big points on just how GOOD the past few contracts have been for hourlies.
saying that I agree starting pay SUX. When i started $8 was starting for part timers and drivers were making either 9 or 9.50 an hour,it's been so long i cant remember.
Jim Rockford
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So..now you just get "a chance to vote"...but...if its not the right vote...it gets overturned....hmmmm..interesting way to look at the "voting" process.
Only need too see one more contract,then I can walk out the door.
Yes we make alot more money (full timers) but we gave up many other (rights)
Just like taxes, once you start paying more,they never go down
The gap between partime and full time is atleast 3 fold, if not more.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The Milkman
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I sense a bit of 'sour grapes' in your posts over the last contract,but prior to that how many have you worked under?
hall has made GREAT gains on the side of the hourlies when you compare the contracts that were negotiated when Presser,Mathis et al were in power . For example in 1987 we got .30/.30.30 for raises, and no relief of the 3-1 Fulltime Hiring. there was NO harassment or 9.5 language either. it was a crappy contract, but because even though the majority opposed it it fell short of the 2/3 needed to
Started in 81, left 08...percentage wise the raises got smaller. Yes friend/T made more per hour compared to P/T but when stuck at $8.50 for years the difference was more noticeable. Yes us retirees got the long end of the Shaft...Wd40 will not help to get it out
Sorry man. some of us tried to put a stop to this contract.
The game was FIXED!
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