With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over???

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by caharrell5, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Active Member

    discuss...
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Name one other major business that has to prepay their employees pension benefits.
     
  3. bluehdmc

    bluehdmc Well-Known Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Or get Congressional approval for a rate increase. By the time the increase is approved they have to ask for another one. The only time Congress moves quickly is to get outta town when they are in recess.
     
  4. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    They are on recess even when they are in Washington...
     
  5. DorkHead

    DorkHead Active Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Agree.
     
  6. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Why don't they just make a stamp cost $1 ?????
    And deliver only Mon., Weds. and Fri. !!
     
  7. DorkHead

    DorkHead Active Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Yes and Congress passed the bill that requires the USPS pension to be fully funded. This is a HUGE burden for the USPS and totally unnecessary.
    Congress also makes laws for Trade imbalances and then complains why our Olympians are wearing clothes made in China! Throw the bums out!!
     
  8. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    You mean prepay their employees' retirement health benefits.
     
  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Even though they do have to prepay and no one else has to do this that's not the real problem. Look at the numbers folks I think the post office is losing something like $125 million a day. This is only supposed to increase more and more with each passing year. The model doesn't work anymore. Many post offices need to be closed and many many employees let go. It's not pretty and no one likes it but at some point it has to be done.


    Although with all the work they are getting from us and fed ex who knows maybe they will turn it around. I wonder on the smartpost surepost packages and such just how much do fed ex and ups make on those boxes and how much does the post office make?
     
  10. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Let them raise the prices..especially on the parcels and flat rate boxes....it won't be profitable for UPS OR FedEx to use them for smartpost or surepost and get that Damn volume back.
     
  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    If the USPS were to raise the price on parcels and flat boxes, the volume of Smartpost and Surepost would go up.
    It would have no effect on current Smartpost and Surepost volume.
    Smartpost and Surepost contracts with the USPS are contractual and not published rates.
    Other than normal inflation increases, the charge per package by the USPS to UPS and FedEx would remain the same regardless of the published rates for parcels and flat boxes.
     
  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    It is actually both that is causing problems - annuity and health care pre-payments.
    The immediate looming default is related to healthcare pre-payments.
     
  13. Dracula

    Dracula Package Car is cake compared to this...

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    The USPS is probably doomed. In this day and age,. there is no way to compromise at the heels of Congress. The conservatives hate ANYTHING with the word union attached to it, and since they are a majority in the House of Representatives, that is as far as any improvements for the Post Office and its employees. Their rates are too low. Their service is just as good as ours. Have you ever ordered something on Ebay? Priority Mail packages come quick, cheap and easy. But raising rates in this anti-tax day and age? Yeah, good luck with that. The public bitches and moans when a first class stamp goes up by a dime or nickel. And, oh yeah, my Saturday mail better NOT stop coming. How is the USPS supposed to make progress like that? And one more thing: if the USPS died, do you really think UPS and FED-EX will send mail at post office prices? Yeah, sure thing.
     
  14. Omega man

    Omega man Active Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    UPS could never handle their volume without a major expansion. If the Post Office goes, so does the ability to send inexpensive letters and such.
     
  15. macafee

    macafee New Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Shut up
     
  16. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    yeah we need the volume back..................
     
  17. texan

    texan Well-Known Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    So profound, so intelligent a post.
    I guess I just realized NEG rep option is gone or it is me.
    Netherless, what kind of post is Shut up, other than a 3rd grade frame of mind?
    Does your mother know you are on line?


     
  18. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    Kelly Osbourne - Shut up(live madtv) - YouTube
     
  19. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    To big to fail applies here. Government will never actually fix the problem, just talk about how it needs to be fixed. Not one of those elected officials will vote to make cuts in their own districts, just in everyone else's, this is why nothing will ever be done and it will continue to be shored up on our dime.


    Sounds much like the US deficit huh, look how that's going regardless of your political side.
     
  20. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    Re: With the PO in default, will there soon be great oppurtunity for UPS to take over

    I don't claim to have any real idea about the usps or how it got to be in this situation.
    I guess it's that not many people actually mail letters very often now?
    Maybe they should buy the rights to AMC,and start putting everyone to work making
    cars.The Javelin and the rebel would be big sellers with a nice redesign.
    Just saying,then they could sell the delivery part to ....hmmm