Withdrawing from the Union...

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by LeddySS98, Mar 12, 2014.

  1. LeddySS98

    LeddySS98 Member

    I'm looking for opinions on the above option... I have been driving for approximately 10 years, average of 20 bucks a week for a total of $10,000 in the last 14 months I have turned in 6 - 9.5 violations, to which I have been paid on none of them... My 9.5 from January of last year went all the way to center level and then it just disappeared... I had 5 10hr days in a row. I have a bid rt but they cut it out all week and put me on another rt and hammered me all week... I was told that I couldn't file a 9.5 on it because it wasn't a opted in rt, but that I 'could' use it to opt myself back in and be covered again for the 5 or 6 months... then when they started 9.5ing me again this year on my own rt, I played by the rules I notified mgt I would be over 9.5 and worked as instructed... picking up 3 to 4 - 9.5's a week... filled out the form, gave it to the shop steward... and then a month later I was told that the union hall or headquarters or whatever it's called that handles our claims... had lost my 9.5 opt in info, and even though I had saved copies it didn't matter because they didn't have records of it... and then when I turned in the next 9.5 they claimed they received the fax one day late so it didn't count either even though I turned it in on Monday for the previous week...
    One of the shop stewards that has been encouraging me to file on all of these he and I were both running 9.5s for the week and we were keeping notes with each other comparing days... but when he got his 3rd 9.5 that week he didn't use it to opt in... and when I asked him why he just laughed and said "I'm smart enough not to stick my neck out there and paint a target on my back"... so after months and months of him encouraging me to file file file...and me doing so... now he tells me he's smart enough not to file???
    I tore some tendons in my hand and didn't work for a couple months... I went to the Dr complaining about having pain in my hand and not having control of my hands some times it would just release the pkg I was carrying... He told me it was from overuse syndrome, and my hand had micro tears in them and were unable to repair themselves while I kept working... So when I turned the dr's notes into work it was a straight out battle for me to get the case settled. I had to run around and get notes and info, I went and consulted a public defender for work related issues... I did all the ground work and all I got from the union was telling me not to change my original story.... which I had no intentions of doing... I wasn't lying about anything so it was easy to keep the story straight. So in the end when the company sent me to 'their' dr, and he confirmed the same thing my dr had said then they signed off on it and it was a workmans comp claim. So instead of getting 1/3 pay I now get 2/3 pay... "BUT" my state has a ceiling on the amount they pay out, so i got roughly 1/2... so after all the hassle and headaches and pissing off my mngt team by filing workmans comp on them, it amounted to a 1/6th more pay.... And then when I did get to return back to work I got double union dues pulling out of my check for months and months to make up for the dues that didn't get paid while I was not working... after the fact I was told, oh yeah you should have told them to temporally withdraw from the union while I was not working... all the times I called the union for info they never even mentioned it... the shop steward that was coaching me on what to do failed to mention it until after i was back at work and I was asking him why my union dues are so high....

    Sorry for being so lengthy but I wanted to give the details on why I see no need in paying dues any longer at this point... I can get a policy with Aflac for the same thing i'm paying in dues, and if I get hurt again... I can get 100% of my pay from them and then a 1/3 from disability...

    So am I missing something somewhere? Is there a good reason to keep paying dues? Or just go with my plans of withdrawing thus one less brick being bought by me for the tower they're building somewhere...

  2. Jj1213

    Jj1213 Need that full time

    I believe as soon as you withdraw management will find a way to fire you

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

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    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    Dude, It all depends on your state of employment, if you are in a right-to-work state.
  5. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    I couldn't even get through it.

    Talk to your Steward, though
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  6. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Cliff notes for those that didn't want to read.

    He had 9.5 grievances poorly handled.

    He got hurt and was out on workmans comp, didn't know he needed to withdraw while on comp so he wouldn't have past dues and is :censored2: about it
  7. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    In my very best Cotton Mathers voice, "What we have here, is a failure to communicate."
  8. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    He also wants to take what he'd pay in dues and get a Aflac policy with the money. Why he's blaming the union for his injury is beyond me.
  9. Packmule

    Packmule Well-Known Member

    Things won't get better if you withdraw, you just won't be paying for what appears to be nothing. If even your steward is afraid to file, obviously your area needs some new representation. Focus on rallying your coworkers to vote a different business agent in ASAP.
    Just my thoughts.
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  10. LeddySS98

    LeddySS98 Member

    Yes, Im in a right to work state.

    and no i'm not blaming the union for my injury... I am :censored2: that I've turned in 6 9.5s and nothing has come of it... I have gone through 2 different shop stewards, we only have about 23 drivers in my building... and the 2nd shop steward is the one that told me the union has lost my info... When I asked him what to do, if I should just stop paying dues, he told me "I can see where your coming from, and I wouldn't blame you if you did"
  11. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Got bored long before I got to that part.
  12. Dr.Brown

    Dr.Brown Swollen Member

    why let them know you'll be working over 9 5???? they already know thru dispatch.... work it, file, collect... then have a great steak dinner!!!!
  13. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Withdraw from the Union? Remember you are the Union ... or in this case your wife.
  14. LeddySS98

    LeddySS98 Member

    because I have to notify them, other wise I cant count that day if I go over 9.5... or so thats what the union tells me... but the end results go work it, file, and then wait for a couple weeks for the next excuse as to why this one doesn't count because blah blah blah.

    My wife... I was in the Marine Corps, I came home from Iraq expecting a hug and a kiss... instead I got a empty bank account and divorce papers... so theirs my wife story.
  15. Dweezel

    Dweezel New Member

    If you have copied of all your 9.5 occurrences ask your shop steward to set up a time with your union local BA. A route isn't assigned 9.5 status a driver is, doesn't matter which route your on. Lastly some routes are exempt from 9.5 status usually routes that do over 150 miles a day. So gather your paper work and head to your union hall or call and ask to speak to the business agent. Sometimes things get lost in translation and the BA will sort that out for you.

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  16. LeddySS98

    LeddySS98 Member

    Thanks Dweezel, Ive been thinking about this all day and I like your ideas.. I'll bring the fight to the Union and demand answers from them.
  17. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

    Am very sorry to hear your story, your local must be very weak. If the things you say here is true your ba and stewards should be removed. Very sad.
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  18. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    Each and EVERY union meeting I have ever attended, we were instructed to request a withdrawl card if off for any calender month. Try attending one once in a while, you might learn something!
  19. RealPerson

    RealPerson Active Member

    My Building, in a RTW state, Management doesn't know who is or isn't in the union, they consider us all in the union.
  20. LeddySS98

    LeddySS98 Member

    Ive been to more than one meeting actually!... and withdrawing from the union dues for any reason has never been mentioned at any of them.

    I'm 'told' the whole board is being removed... but at this point its just hear say in my opinion... when I turned in my 9.5s I was 'told' I was golden and would be getting a paid for them to...