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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 118059" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p>it appears you folks are afraid to touch the issue. </p><p> </p><p>You make the point that your union does not recognize time standards as if you can go out on a route and do what you want. </p><p> </p><p>If I send out a driver with a planned day of 10 hours you would have no problem recognizing that work measurement meaning that the company sent you out with 10 hours of planned work.</p><p> </p><p>If you go out with a 9 hour planned day and run over 9.5 then you might also grieve the over 9.5. </p><p> </p><p>So the question not to be argumentative but to try to understand where you draw the line is where do you stop recognizing ups work measurement? Do you use it if helps your case and ignore it where it does not. </p><p> </p><p>Another question might be why is it some drivers can make these allegedly erroneous time measurements without taking any shortcuts.</p><p> </p><p>Do I then pay over 9.5 penalties to those who for whatever reason can not run scratch when some can on the same route. </p><p> </p><p>another question would be do you believe fair days work for fair days pay means you decide what a fair days work is? I've seen too many instances where a driver who wants to get off early is suddenly able to burn the run up that day. Am I supposed to believe that person just happened to have a good day?</p><p> </p><p>If you don't recognize any type of measurement then I can assume you also do not recognize stop counts as a meausrement since 120 stops one day could be radically different from 120 stops the next. </p><p> </p><p>Without some type of meausrement it does appear the issue can be real ambigous. thus I ask the questions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 118059, member: 1912"] it appears you folks are afraid to touch the issue. You make the point that your union does not recognize time standards as if you can go out on a route and do what you want. If I send out a driver with a planned day of 10 hours you would have no problem recognizing that work measurement meaning that the company sent you out with 10 hours of planned work. If you go out with a 9 hour planned day and run over 9.5 then you might also grieve the over 9.5. So the question not to be argumentative but to try to understand where you draw the line is where do you stop recognizing ups work measurement? Do you use it if helps your case and ignore it where it does not. Another question might be why is it some drivers can make these allegedly erroneous time measurements without taking any shortcuts. Do I then pay over 9.5 penalties to those who for whatever reason can not run scratch when some can on the same route. another question would be do you believe fair days work for fair days pay means you decide what a fair days work is? I've seen too many instances where a driver who wants to get off early is suddenly able to burn the run up that day. Am I supposed to believe that person just happened to have a good day? If you don't recognize any type of measurement then I can assume you also do not recognize stop counts as a meausrement since 120 stops one day could be radically different from 120 stops the next. Without some type of meausrement it does appear the issue can be real ambigous. thus I ask the questions. [/QUOTE]
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