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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 571709" data-attributes="member: 249"><p>You have already been given examples of how this actually works. You can either let wealth trickle down from the top, or you can let poverty trickle up to everyone from the bottom. You obviously support the latter. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not without severely cutting down on the quality of the goods produced from those resources. </p><p></p><p>Diamonds are a good example of a market distortion as there is only one company that actually mines diamonds so prices do stay artificially high, but in a down economy like today diamond prices are at an all time low because fewer people can afford to purchase them. Even a monopoly has to bow down before the all powerful free market. </p><p></p><p>I can not be for sure about the grain being dumped and allowed to rot, but in this country our government pays farmers not to produce keeping prices higher than they should be. I say let them all produce, and when the price drops farmers will leave farming to do something else with their lives, learning new skills which will allow the price of grain to level out to a level people can afford to purchase and the remaining farmers can still earn a profit. </p><p></p><p>I don't know if you've noticed, but most airlines today are losing money. They have no choice but to overbook and charge extra for the more rare seats. Even then there are only so many window and 1st class seats to go around therefore it only makes sense to charge more for them. </p><p></p><p>The governments and the people allow this to happen. Nobody is forcing them to sell their grain to outside interests. They can keep the grain to feed their own people, but they make the choice not too. </p><p></p><p>When workers control production as you continually state quality of goods will drop, and some will dissappear altogether. Sorry, but the workers did not come up with the idea to build the factory, purchase the machines, and produce products efficiently. It was the businessman who did, and it is the businessman who has every right to the profit of production. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It sounds so simple doesn't it? Just farm more cows. Wow, why don't all farmers think of that? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the cows cost more to have because they come from certain genetic lineages which can only produce so many new cows a year. Why do race horses pull in values ranging from hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions? Depending on the parents of that horse determines its future value because its genes give it the qualities of a fine race horse. Those two parents can only produce so many horses in their lifetime, making the value of their newborns much higher than that of a standard horse. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your father has obviously made the choice to live that way. If he wanted better he could have done so by saving money, going into a different field of work, getting a better education, learning new and different skills. Nobody but your father has anyone to blame but himself for where and how he lives today. Of course I could be completely wrong and he could be living like that because he would rather save money then spend, but you seem to be blaming it on people beyond his front porch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brett636, post: 571709, member: 249"] You have already been given examples of how this actually works. You can either let wealth trickle down from the top, or you can let poverty trickle up to everyone from the bottom. You obviously support the latter. Not without severely cutting down on the quality of the goods produced from those resources. Diamonds are a good example of a market distortion as there is only one company that actually mines diamonds so prices do stay artificially high, but in a down economy like today diamond prices are at an all time low because fewer people can afford to purchase them. Even a monopoly has to bow down before the all powerful free market. I can not be for sure about the grain being dumped and allowed to rot, but in this country our government pays farmers not to produce keeping prices higher than they should be. I say let them all produce, and when the price drops farmers will leave farming to do something else with their lives, learning new skills which will allow the price of grain to level out to a level people can afford to purchase and the remaining farmers can still earn a profit. I don't know if you've noticed, but most airlines today are losing money. They have no choice but to overbook and charge extra for the more rare seats. Even then there are only so many window and 1st class seats to go around therefore it only makes sense to charge more for them. The governments and the people allow this to happen. Nobody is forcing them to sell their grain to outside interests. They can keep the grain to feed their own people, but they make the choice not too. When workers control production as you continually state quality of goods will drop, and some will dissappear altogether. Sorry, but the workers did not come up with the idea to build the factory, purchase the machines, and produce products efficiently. It was the businessman who did, and it is the businessman who has every right to the profit of production. It sounds so simple doesn't it? Just farm more cows. Wow, why don't all farmers think of that? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the cows cost more to have because they come from certain genetic lineages which can only produce so many new cows a year. Why do race horses pull in values ranging from hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions? Depending on the parents of that horse determines its future value because its genes give it the qualities of a fine race horse. Those two parents can only produce so many horses in their lifetime, making the value of their newborns much higher than that of a standard horse. Your father has obviously made the choice to live that way. If he wanted better he could have done so by saving money, going into a different field of work, getting a better education, learning new and different skills. Nobody but your father has anyone to blame but himself for where and how he lives today. Of course I could be completely wrong and he could be living like that because he would rather save money then spend, but you seem to be blaming it on people beyond his front porch. [/QUOTE]
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