You already told no work Friday? I've been wondering if there'll be any work for us, but no-ones said anything.Not working Sat. Not working Fri either.
14 hours last night with paid lunch. Hopefully I won't have 8 available anyhow!
workin on christmas eve
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14 hours last night with paid lunch. Hopefully I won't have 8 available anyhow!
And THAT is a good possibility.
Mr Shifter
Well-Known Member
^same poor boy gotta eat.
HEFFERNAN
Huge Member
Northshoredriver
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Had over 12 yesterday and 11 today..and i know ill def get that on wed and thursday
Bubblehead
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This is the applicable language in the Central Region in my opinion.
Art 12 Sec 1
In the case of each full-time seniority employee the standard
workweek shall be forty (40) hours per week, and the standard
workday shall be eight (8) hours per day. Work shall be
scheduled for five (5) consecutive days - Monday through
Friday or Tuesday through Saturday. An employee may be
required to work in excess of an eight (8) hour day or a forty
(40) hour week and in that event, he/she shall be compensated
at the rate of time and one-half (1 1/2) his/her regular straighttime
rate for all hours worked in excess of eight (8) hours in a
day or forty (40) hours in a week.
In order for the Employer, the Union and employees to further
benefit from expanding service offerings to our customers, it
may become necessary to create schedules that differ from
those that exist today. Future full-time schedules may be
expanded to include Sunday through Thursday. Should that
happen, current full-time employees will be afforded the
opportunity to select their preferred schedule in seniority
order.
Art 12 Sec 4
A full-time seniority employee’s uniform starting time must be
scheduled and posted by Friday the end of the shift of their
last scheduled work day of the preceding workweek for the
following workweek. In areas where the Union and the
Employer agree, the start time shall be uniform except where
the Employer is able to schedule an earlier start time for the
package driver employees on Mondays or days after holidays,
when merchandise is available for dispatch. If the Employer
switches an employee’s workweek from Monday through
Friday, to Tuesday through Saturday, he/she shall be allowed
to exercise his/her seniority.
Art 12 Sec 9
All work performed on the employee’s sixth (6th) day shall be
paid at time and one-half (1 1/2). All work performed on the
employee’s seventh (7th) day worked shall be paid at double
time.
Prior to working any employee six (6) or seven (7) days, the
Employer shall have the right to work any qualified employee
who has not yet had the opportunity to work five (5) days.
If an employee is required to work a sixth (6th) and seventh
(7th) consecutive day at the Employer’s request, they shall be
paid the appropriate premium regardless of the established
work week.
Having read this language I conclude that the company can schedule us for a saturday, but must have done so by last friday, which they didn't.
So as usual, they are now trying to bully my younger co-workers into thinking they have to work.
I say they don't have to work since they weren't properly scheduled.
I plan to try and get the few that have signed the volunteer list to withdraw so we can negotiate a double time signup list.
Art 12 Sec 1
In the case of each full-time seniority employee the standard
workweek shall be forty (40) hours per week, and the standard
workday shall be eight (8) hours per day. Work shall be
scheduled for five (5) consecutive days - Monday through
Friday or Tuesday through Saturday. An employee may be
required to work in excess of an eight (8) hour day or a forty
(40) hour week and in that event, he/she shall be compensated
at the rate of time and one-half (1 1/2) his/her regular straighttime
rate for all hours worked in excess of eight (8) hours in a
day or forty (40) hours in a week.
In order for the Employer, the Union and employees to further
benefit from expanding service offerings to our customers, it
may become necessary to create schedules that differ from
those that exist today. Future full-time schedules may be
expanded to include Sunday through Thursday. Should that
happen, current full-time employees will be afforded the
opportunity to select their preferred schedule in seniority
order.
Art 12 Sec 4
A full-time seniority employee’s uniform starting time must be
scheduled and posted by Friday the end of the shift of their
last scheduled work day of the preceding workweek for the
following workweek. In areas where the Union and the
Employer agree, the start time shall be uniform except where
the Employer is able to schedule an earlier start time for the
package driver employees on Mondays or days after holidays,
when merchandise is available for dispatch. If the Employer
switches an employee’s workweek from Monday through
Friday, to Tuesday through Saturday, he/she shall be allowed
to exercise his/her seniority.
Art 12 Sec 9
All work performed on the employee’s sixth (6th) day shall be
paid at time and one-half (1 1/2). All work performed on the
employee’s seventh (7th) day worked shall be paid at double
time.
Prior to working any employee six (6) or seven (7) days, the
Employer shall have the right to work any qualified employee
who has not yet had the opportunity to work five (5) days.
If an employee is required to work a sixth (6th) and seventh
(7th) consecutive day at the Employer’s request, they shall be
paid the appropriate premium regardless of the established
work week.
Having read this language I conclude that the company can schedule us for a saturday, but must have done so by last friday, which they didn't.
So as usual, they are now trying to bully my younger co-workers into thinking they have to work.
I say they don't have to work since they weren't properly scheduled.
I plan to try and get the few that have signed the volunteer list to withdraw so we can negotiate a double time signup list.
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Bubblehead
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happyboy
Well-Known Member
I remember a few years ago on a Saturday also Christmas Eve drivers were suposed to come in and work... a bunch of them called out or just no showed... at the pcm the next work day the center manager was all mad and called them out but nothing came of it all...I would just make sure you have a buch of hours by friday or call out Saturday.
I like your logic, however how is anyone ever required to work a sixth or seventh day unless UPS has the ability to staff a day like this coming Saturday? The CBA doesn't allow a schedule beyond five days so I don't know if the prior Friday angle would work. Finally, why does it become OK to work at 2X versus 1.5X. If your position is correct, the pay rate should be a non-issue.
I don't know where in the Central you work but some riders do specify allowances for this day.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
If you only have 4 hours left, it does not mean that you have to clock out in 4....it means that you can no longer drive a vehicle after 4.
If you are forced to come in and work then you are still entitled to your 8 hr gurantee, regardless of how many DOT hours you have left. If you want to be paid for 8, however.....then the company is entitled to make you stay and work for the full 8. They can have you work as a helper, or sweep trailers, or do any other inside work that needs doing, as long as you are not behind the wheel of a package car once you have reached the 60 hr limit for the week.
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
I am siting the Central Region Supplement and see nothing in our local rider to the contrary.
My original post stated that they can require, but have missed the window to do so.
Had management actually done their job and managed, they would have scheduled appropriately and the pay rate would indeed be a non-issue.
Double time may get them the volunteers they need to staff the operation.
I would also site the language that governs our option and single day vacations in which the company requires 8 days notice.
It is not unreasonable for the company or the employee to have advanced notice on issues involving scheduling.
After all, it's Christmas Eve on top of being a Saturday.
Is this not a well established day in which people make plans to travel and commit to be with friends and family?
Either way; failure show up Saturday, at the very most, is no more than an attendance occurance for the driver fueled by a managerial shortcoming.
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brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
All of us drivers are used to not being available Christmas Eve Day. This is just Saturday air. We are planning on running 15 or so drivers.
I don't think they missed the window by not scheduling Saturday work the prior Friday. They fulfilled their requirement of posting 5 day work week schedules. There is no requirement to post a six day schedule, but I do agree with you that foresight was lacking, and doubletime will increase interest. As far as Christmas Eve, it is a regular work day nearly every year. However your center posts Saturday work normally would be the process they'd most likely be required to do in this case. Usually it is an early week posting as volume trends become known. Failure to show up will be treated as an attendance issue fueled by managerial shortcomings but in practicality other drivers who do show will be forced to work longer if staffing is short.
Offer from the top, force from the bottom, staff with enough help to get everyone done by 3PM and pay 8 hour guarantee. Go to church and pray for world peace.
Merry Christmas Bubble, I hope it all works out.
