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<blockquote data-quote="BigBrownBlues" data-source="post: 255941"><p>No need to apologize. I think most of us are just trying to make an informed decision. UPS and the union leadership have their own reasons for trying to sell the contract. The TDUers and others have their reasons for trying to kill it. Thank you for posting the link to the video. It does have some good info, but comming from the teamsters leadership it will try to emphisize only the positive aspects. You have to be very careful watching it. I hope you are right that UPS will cover the possible shortfall in both types of pension benifit plans. The video seems to try to give that impression without actually saying both types will be covered by the new plan. Sometimes what they don't say is the more important than what they do. It's clear 25 and out /30 and out type pensions will be saved if CS falters but I'm not convinced by the video regular accrual pensions will. I know this is confusing to alot of UPSers but we owe it to the guys who are close to retirement yo get the facts strait. I don't think we can count on UPS or the Teamsters or TDU for complete unbiased information. If you watch the video listen how carefull he is when talking about the new plan assuming CS's liability to always qualify his statements by saying "in a 30 and out type pension" or something to that effect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigBrownBlues, post: 255941"] No need to apologize. I think most of us are just trying to make an informed decision. UPS and the union leadership have their own reasons for trying to sell the contract. The TDUers and others have their reasons for trying to kill it. Thank you for posting the link to the video. It does have some good info, but comming from the teamsters leadership it will try to emphisize only the positive aspects. You have to be very careful watching it. I hope you are right that UPS will cover the possible shortfall in both types of pension benifit plans. The video seems to try to give that impression without actually saying both types will be covered by the new plan. Sometimes what they don't say is the more important than what they do. It's clear 25 and out /30 and out type pensions will be saved if CS falters but I'm not convinced by the video regular accrual pensions will. I know this is confusing to alot of UPSers but we owe it to the guys who are close to retirement yo get the facts strait. I don't think we can count on UPS or the Teamsters or TDU for complete unbiased information. If you watch the video listen how carefull he is when talking about the new plan assuming CS's liability to always qualify his statements by saying "in a 30 and out type pension" or something to that effect. [/QUOTE]
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