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<blockquote data-quote="tourists24" data-source="post: 521320" data-attributes="member: 11490"><p>Since we cant even agree on what torture actually is, I think "what ifs" can be very relevant. Is it safe to assume that since you ask when traditional methods havent worked that you think that they always work? </p><p> </p><p>We will never get the full stories on what happens behind those closed doors. There are "claims" that the methods used in this case did do good, but since only selected documents were released, we may not get that evidence one way or the other. You say we DO know that there was torture. Well then, punishment is in order. End of story.</p><p> </p><p>You still didnt answer the "what if" though. What if regular ways dont work? What then? Where are the lines drawn? If there really was a plot on Los Angeles and someone holds vital info, where do you draw the line?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tourists24, post: 521320, member: 11490"] Since we cant even agree on what torture actually is, I think "what ifs" can be very relevant. Is it safe to assume that since you ask when traditional methods havent worked that you think that they always work? We will never get the full stories on what happens behind those closed doors. There are "claims" that the methods used in this case did do good, but since only selected documents were released, we may not get that evidence one way or the other. You say we DO know that there was torture. Well then, punishment is in order. End of story. You still didnt answer the "what if" though. What if regular ways dont work? What then? Where are the lines drawn? If there really was a plot on Los Angeles and someone holds vital info, where do you draw the line? [/QUOTE]
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