Writing Box Shelf # on Box itself

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

My loader writes the PAL number on the boxes. Since I jump all over the route I just glance, grab and go. Definitely not a waste of time.

Sure, if I had less than 100 packages on my car.....

 

[brownmonster]

Sure, if I had less than 100 packages on my car.....

Occasionally 200. Cmon man!

 

[bobbycos]

New lurker here, PAS in my building is beyond a joke, whoever programmed it was clueless as to the customer base

I have a bulk stop in my truck that has at least 4 different PAS numbers and none close to the other

 

[FrigidFTSup]

I have a bulk stop in my truck that has at least 4 different PAS numbers and none close to the other

Talk to the dispatcher

 

[Mothe73]

Excuses..that's what I'm reading. I know preloading can be difficult but it can be done and done correctly...I know, I've done it.

Oh How I adore the " I have done it crowd". Which sometimes usually means along time ago. With twice the time and half the load. But it's ok if you think I am just a loafer. Sure the constant rotation of newbies is a blast.

 

[Brownslave688]

Talk to the dispatcher

Or talk to a wall.


Same difference here

 

[Mothe73]

I have 2 trucks that sometimes get most of their packages dispatched to one side. I wonder if it is possible to tip the truck if I didnt start shifting bulk to the other side?

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

I have 2 trucks that sometimes get most of their packages dispatched to one side. I wonder if it is possible to tip the truck if I didnt start shifting bulk to the other side?

Dispatcher at my center put every package on one of my trucks labeled in the 1000's, biggest damn mess I've ever seen in my life.

 

[TooTechie]

A week? Most quit in two days at my center lol

When I worked inside we'd often see new guys leaving on their break of the first day. Many wouldn't say anything...thet just went home.

 

[TooTechie]

When i was a loader I HATED writing on the packages and when was told I had to do it I would refuse and tell them that that is defacing someone else property.

But as a driver, if a loader does it right, the writings can be hugely beneficial. I used to have a loader that did it perfectly. Stop for stop in my PC. So good that Stevie Wonder could have run my trip.

Nah, Stevie was busy loading MY truck...with a snowblower. Now my loader is above average.

 

[TooTechie]

Actually he has a point. There is no need to write the number when the number used to place the package in the car is already on the PAL. It's reductant and therefore a waste of time. And since most preloaders don't have time to/aren't capable of writing legible numbers, and since there are often duplicate sequence numbers (that should never happen), we often end up having to do six sided checks for a label with an address. If they would just go back to facing either the PAL or the shipping label then we'd save allot of time each day. So, unless they are legible and not duplicated relying on handwritten numbers nowadays is counter productive. Hell I didn't even use them back before we had EDD.




It's stupid but its the norm now. Most of our preloaders don't touch the PALs anymore. I don't even want to know how much more time I have been spending in the back of the truck since this crap started. I can tell you that it makes me want to choke the life out of whatever empty suit in Atlanta issued the order. After being in the back of the truck too long flipping packages around looking for a label in the heat I have to step out and take a break and remind myself that they are paying me pretty damn well to be counter productive. LOL! Then I wipe the sweat off my face with my sweat towel and then dive back in. LOL!

Agreed. Only time its helpful for me to write a hin on a box is when the box is somewhere it's not supposed to be.

 

[TooTechie]

Dispatcher at my center put every package on one of my trucks labeled in the 1000's, biggest damn mess I've ever seen in my life.

When I was a cover guy I used to get split level routes like that. I had 180 pieces palled to the 1000 shelf. After air I had to pull over and fine sort the whole truck.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

When I worked inside we'd often see new guys leaving on their break of the first day. Many wouldn't say anything...thet just went home.

Preloaders with breaks?

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

When I was a cover guy I used to get split level routes like that. I had 180 pieces palled to the 1000 shelf. After air I had to pull over and fine sort the whole truck.

That's called the struggle huh? When it happened to me it was a snow day and only like 5 of the normal 20 people came to work that day, I had to load 8 package cars and 3 of them were screwed up like we are talking about. Miserable days.

 

[wayfair]

3 trucks that have bulk loads for lowes an wally world mixed in with resi.

I'm not sure on Lowe's, but the walmart volume is nothing what it used to be

 

[By The Book]

An hour? Shoot I'm lucky to get 25 minutes.

I generally get about 3 weeks before they've had enough.

Why is that? UPS hired these people, let's give them every chance to be successful. I hold you to a higher standard, you know that.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Why is that? UPS hired these people, let's give them every chance to be successful. I hold you to a higher standard, you know that.

I'm not allowed to code anybody as training. Not for a minute. So I end up taking a hit on my sort PPH over it and then clerk and washer time afterwords. Instead of sitting there and being able to go through everything thoroughly with every new employee I have to give them the auctioneer intro. I absolutely hate it.

Even if they are trained like I would like them to be they give me no hours after the sort. So I end up sending a lot of people home early. My sort is only a little over an hour. I need the amount of people I have for my sort. But afterwords I can't keep that many people on because I will never reach my numbers. I usually only have enough time to run a full crew for an hour, then 2 parkers, 2 clerks, and 1 car washer after the sort. That's tough when during the sort I have 9 employees total.

Ideally they should double the wash time and it would make all the difference. I could keep all those guys after the sort washing. Turnover would drop substantially, guys would be trained better, and we'd have the best looking fleet around.

It isn't as easy as saying well just give them the time. I'll be without a job if I did it. So the turnover is high. I've brought it up to my FT Sup and center manager about a half dozen times but they tell me that's how it has to be. It's wrong, but that's the way they want it.

 

[trickpony1]

It's wrong, but that's the way they want it.

So how does it feel to be placed in a "double bind" situation where, essentially, you're "damned if you do and damned if you don't"?

We drivers get to experience this often.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

So how does it feel to be placed in a "double bind" situation where, essentially, you're "damned if you do and damned if you don't"?

We drivers get to experience this often.

It happens. You do what you can and try to find an ethical loophole you can use.

 

[TooTechie]

Preloaders with breaks?

Night shift, but yeah. In our contract part timers get a 10 minute break.