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<blockquote data-quote="Char" data-source="post: 261517" data-attributes="member: 10877"><p>Its funny how you all complain about the pensions and retirement benefits. The even funnier part is that you all demanded it. You all demanded that someone else be responsible for your retirement. Now you have it and look what you have. It is no different than Americans wanting free health care and social security. Someone else picked the plan and now complain that it is crap. The only way to fix this is to get new people off this system. </p><p> </p><p>I'd rather take whatever contributions UPS makes to a so-called retirement package in my paycheck. I can make far better decisions regarding my retirement than a bunch crooks who are not vested in the decisions they make for others. I am an 8 year part time employee. If UPS paid me all the money they pay in health, welfare, and retirement I could have retired in 6 more years while remaining a part time employee. Retired at 35 would have been great. If governement had taken social security and medicare taxes and placed them in a personal savings account instead of throwing it in a big pot and dishing it out others no one would have to worry about retirement or healthcare. Congress would not have so much power over people. They would not be able to spend my money on someone else. They would not be able to keep people dependent on them.</p><p> </p><p>Instead of getting higher wages year after, that money gets dumped into the black hole that is the pension program. </p><p> </p><p>Someone on another thread said something like "The pension is saved isn't that what matters most?" There is no gurantee that this will save the pension plans. Just like raising taxes on the rich won't save social security. </p><p> </p><p>The more you people rely on others to make decisions for you (whether its the government, ups, or teamsters) the more unhappy and dissatisfied you will become. At the same time you give greater power to others over your life, the more you become dependent on them. </p><p> </p><p>Thanks you to all the UPSers that allowed this to happen, and thank you to all Americans that allowed the government to do the same thing. </p><p> </p><p>Char</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Char, post: 261517, member: 10877"] Its funny how you all complain about the pensions and retirement benefits. The even funnier part is that you all demanded it. You all demanded that someone else be responsible for your retirement. Now you have it and look what you have. It is no different than Americans wanting free health care and social security. Someone else picked the plan and now complain that it is crap. The only way to fix this is to get new people off this system. I'd rather take whatever contributions UPS makes to a so-called retirement package in my paycheck. I can make far better decisions regarding my retirement than a bunch crooks who are not vested in the decisions they make for others. I am an 8 year part time employee. If UPS paid me all the money they pay in health, welfare, and retirement I could have retired in 6 more years while remaining a part time employee. Retired at 35 would have been great. If governement had taken social security and medicare taxes and placed them in a personal savings account instead of throwing it in a big pot and dishing it out others no one would have to worry about retirement or healthcare. Congress would not have so much power over people. They would not be able to spend my money on someone else. They would not be able to keep people dependent on them. Instead of getting higher wages year after, that money gets dumped into the black hole that is the pension program. Someone on another thread said something like "The pension is saved isn't that what matters most?" There is no gurantee that this will save the pension plans. Just like raising taxes on the rich won't save social security. The more you people rely on others to make decisions for you (whether its the government, ups, or teamsters) the more unhappy and dissatisfied you will become. At the same time you give greater power to others over your life, the more you become dependent on them. Thanks you to all the UPSers that allowed this to happen, and thank you to all Americans that allowed the government to do the same thing. Char [/QUOTE]
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