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<blockquote data-quote="Char" data-source="post: 262757" data-attributes="member: 10877"><p>Again not to perpetuate a politcal debate, but the Republicans and the Democrats have us the people right where they want us. If people weren't so concerned about beating the other side they would realize that they are pulling a two card monty. They are both the same side of 1 coin. NAFTA started by Republicans and completely passed by Democrats. </p><p> </p><p>Lets take the 08 elections and the Iraq War. The Republicans say to stay the course, the Dems say out of Iraq now. All 3 major Dems refused to guarantee withdrawl by the end of their first term. If all 3 believe they were lied to and mislead and that it is such an illegal and immoral war and Americans want the war to end right now, they would have no problem pledging to bring them in right after being sworn in. Hell, the Dems hold both houses of Congress, if they really believed the war is illegal and immoral they could vote to cut all funding. </p><p> </p><p>If people want out of Iraq like the media and Dems claim they do why is Hillary running away with the nomination. If that were really true Kucinich would winning despite his troll like appearance. The fact of the matter is that Dems will not pull out. Hillary told a womans group before the war vote "I have spoken with people that I trust and know whats going on over in Iraq, and I will vote to invade Iraq." Then on the Senate floor said "This is the hardest vote I ever had to make, BUT I CAST IT WITH CONVICTION." When Saddam Hussein was captured she said, "I supported going into Iraq to overthrow Saddam." Then, later on she says on the campaign trail "if Bush doesn't pull the troops out by 2009 I will!!!" She said "Bush lied and mislead me about Iraq" Then at a debate refused to pledge to withdraw troops by 2013. Please explain to me why she is running away with the nomination. They want Bush to pull out in order to beat Bush and straddle defeat around his neck. They wanted him to pull out before the 08 elections. Do you really think the Democrats are gonna leave while they hold power so defeat can be straddled around their neck. The opposition to Iraq had one purpose... to defeat George W. Bush since he has quite frankly outclassed all of his political opposition. With all the supposed scandels the Dems tried to create against Bush, not 1 has stuck. </p><p> </p><p>Its no different with Teamsters and UPS. Those that run the show want their power. the union bosses that run Teamsters want the power you have handed over to them. The power to collect your union dues, the power to decide your healthcare, pensions, and wages. They must limit what you get, otherwise why would we still need them.</p><p> </p><p>Char</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Char, post: 262757, member: 10877"] Again not to perpetuate a politcal debate, but the Republicans and the Democrats have us the people right where they want us. If people weren't so concerned about beating the other side they would realize that they are pulling a two card monty. They are both the same side of 1 coin. NAFTA started by Republicans and completely passed by Democrats. Lets take the 08 elections and the Iraq War. The Republicans say to stay the course, the Dems say out of Iraq now. All 3 major Dems refused to guarantee withdrawl by the end of their first term. If all 3 believe they were lied to and mislead and that it is such an illegal and immoral war and Americans want the war to end right now, they would have no problem pledging to bring them in right after being sworn in. Hell, the Dems hold both houses of Congress, if they really believed the war is illegal and immoral they could vote to cut all funding. If people want out of Iraq like the media and Dems claim they do why is Hillary running away with the nomination. If that were really true Kucinich would winning despite his troll like appearance. The fact of the matter is that Dems will not pull out. Hillary told a womans group before the war vote "I have spoken with people that I trust and know whats going on over in Iraq, and I will vote to invade Iraq." Then on the Senate floor said "This is the hardest vote I ever had to make, BUT I CAST IT WITH CONVICTION." When Saddam Hussein was captured she said, "I supported going into Iraq to overthrow Saddam." Then, later on she says on the campaign trail "if Bush doesn't pull the troops out by 2009 I will!!!" She said "Bush lied and mislead me about Iraq" Then at a debate refused to pledge to withdraw troops by 2013. Please explain to me why she is running away with the nomination. They want Bush to pull out in order to beat Bush and straddle defeat around his neck. They wanted him to pull out before the 08 elections. Do you really think the Democrats are gonna leave while they hold power so defeat can be straddled around their neck. The opposition to Iraq had one purpose... to defeat George W. Bush since he has quite frankly outclassed all of his political opposition. With all the supposed scandels the Dems tried to create against Bush, not 1 has stuck. Its no different with Teamsters and UPS. Those that run the show want their power. the union bosses that run Teamsters want the power you have handed over to them. The power to collect your union dues, the power to decide your healthcare, pensions, and wages. They must limit what you get, otherwise why would we still need them. Char [/QUOTE]
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