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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 122190" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Do you really want a "true democracy" where the majority always rules? </p><p> </p><p><strong><em>I propose we kill CTOTH immediately and seize his lands and property</em></strong> and I just got a majority of people here to vote and support my proposal. The measure is now passed so CTOTH stand up and now proclaim, "We who are about to die salute you!"</p><p> </p><p>Pure and true democracy is not a good system of governance IMO because someone who is in the minority for whatever reason will be forced to live according to majority rules. You may not be old enough to remember when certain folks had to sit on the back of the bus but I do and it was according to the will of the majority. The only option at that point for a minority of many or even 1 would be to either convince enough to make a majority of people to move to the minority position in order to protect them/himself or get inside the majority and work to manipulate it or swing deals under the table allowing him to maintain his "priviledge" (notice I didn't say rights because those are beyond the control of others) in order for them/him to continue a certain form of lifestyle or just ordinary being in life which they have decided works best for them.</p><p> </p><p>I'm pretty sure you didn't mean this extreme form of democracy in your statement as I would never offer to harm you in any way but in many respects the only reason we don't have that extreme in America at this point is the people in the majority haven't realized the potential and coalesced into a united front that smashes all opposition to it's desires and goals. If you think it impossible I suggest you look at the history of mankind and from a western European standpoint this has been our history time and time again especially when the reigns of power are at stack! Also if you think the court system would overrule then I hope you never see that nightmare scenario get smashed to the 4 winds. Congress has the power to legislate jurisdiction and can forebade the courts from hearing such cases that challenge such issues. Also the executive branch has certain powers that allow it to circumvent not only the courts but the Congress as well. If one looks now we can see it routinely use in the halls of power in DC.</p><p> </p><p>Your point of labeling people being pointless is very true and from what I see they do so in order to demean and shame in order to use psychological force to make you bend to their will. And your point that America in not democratic is true just as America is not really free anymore either. We just live with the illusion or what's left of a shadow of freedom and liberty that we once had and were.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 122190, member: 2189"] Do you really want a "true democracy" where the majority always rules? [B][I]I propose we kill CTOTH immediately and seize his lands and property[/I][/B] and I just got a majority of people here to vote and support my proposal. The measure is now passed so CTOTH stand up and now proclaim, "We who are about to die salute you!" Pure and true democracy is not a good system of governance IMO because someone who is in the minority for whatever reason will be forced to live according to majority rules. You may not be old enough to remember when certain folks had to sit on the back of the bus but I do and it was according to the will of the majority. The only option at that point for a minority of many or even 1 would be to either convince enough to make a majority of people to move to the minority position in order to protect them/himself or get inside the majority and work to manipulate it or swing deals under the table allowing him to maintain his "priviledge" (notice I didn't say rights because those are beyond the control of others) in order for them/him to continue a certain form of lifestyle or just ordinary being in life which they have decided works best for them. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean this extreme form of democracy in your statement as I would never offer to harm you in any way but in many respects the only reason we don't have that extreme in America at this point is the people in the majority haven't realized the potential and coalesced into a united front that smashes all opposition to it's desires and goals. If you think it impossible I suggest you look at the history of mankind and from a western European standpoint this has been our history time and time again especially when the reigns of power are at stack! Also if you think the court system would overrule then I hope you never see that nightmare scenario get smashed to the 4 winds. Congress has the power to legislate jurisdiction and can forebade the courts from hearing such cases that challenge such issues. Also the executive branch has certain powers that allow it to circumvent not only the courts but the Congress as well. If one looks now we can see it routinely use in the halls of power in DC. Your point of labeling people being pointless is very true and from what I see they do so in order to demean and shame in order to use psychological force to make you bend to their will. And your point that America in not democratic is true just as America is not really free anymore either. We just live with the illusion or what's left of a shadow of freedom and liberty that we once had and were. [/QUOTE]
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