United Package Smashers

[FromBluetoBrown]

Originally Posted by UnitedPackageSmashers

. Just wait. Monday at 5 PM CST, I am releasing the story. I am just waiting for UPS's PR lady to get back to me with their comments (if any) and then off it goes.

You are a snake. I'm sure you are the type of guy who gets his rocks off watching Micheal Moore videos.

[705red]

Originally Posted by UnitedPackageSmashers

That 4ft drop to include a kick, or throwing it onto a porch? How about throwing them onto the truck? Or throwing it onto the porch and taking out houseplants? All that is the shipper's fault too? Sorry, you'll have to excuse me if I continue to disagree.

What about the parcels with intact labels that UPS doesn't even bother to try and deliver? And yes, there are some of those and I have irrefutable proof of same. Just wait. Monday at 5 PM CST, I am releasing the story. I am just waiting for UPS's PR lady to get back to me with their comments (if any) and then off it goes.

Personally, I have experienced alot fewer casualties when shipping DHL and I have done a TON of DHL this year. Maybe I am just lucky. Who knows.

Maybe in your perfect little world everything is peachy and nothing ever goes wrong. Yes we have damaged packages, yes some times its our fault and sometimes its the shippers fault. Ok mr i started my own stupid webite what would you do to insure that a box would never get damaged? I see you and your little merry cult followers painting the picture that we destroy the packages on purpose and nothing could be farther from the truth. Let me ask you do you drive? How many miles a year? For how many years? Have you ever had an accident? Or how about a car break down? Its probably ups's fault for this too, right?

[DS]

One thing everyone is missing,in fact the MAIN reason that we have damages and claims,is the drivers .When a driver feels the workload is beyond the realm of reality he has to take shortcuts to do the job in a prescribed time.Example,you get 5 ocpu in a row all 5pm close and a customer insists its ok to take the 1964 mustang door wrapped in nothing.
It takes 15 seconds to say yes,3 minutes to refuse to pick it up.
Do the math.One old school company demanding production to the point of uattainable results in the real world.I've seen a $5000 keyboard wrapped in bubble wrap and cardboard keys
were falling out the end when I delivered it

[UnitedPackageSmashers]

Originally Posted by big_arrow_up

You prefer DHL huh? Well, how about DHL driver realeasing computers and other electronic equipment at houses where everyone that drives or walks by can see them? Or even better....driver releasing packages (including computers) outside of businesses that are closed? I have personally seen these things happen and have heard customers complain about DHL too. And let's even get into the topic of their crapy uniforms with untucked shirts and sagging pants. You are probably the same type of idiot that gets on all of our nerves on a daily basis. There are at least a few people just like you on every route across the planet. You know.....the dumb arses that wait until we show up to try and go buy a money order. Or leave there apartment number off of their address when they order something and then blame us. Or calling and complaining after we attempt their package 3 times and say it's our fault. Get the idea?

I couldn't care less how the driver dresses if he doesn't throw my packages. I also don't care if they leave things outside as long as they pay their insurance claims. You see, thats where DHL and UPS are different. DHL does not get a signature on anything, this I know. But the one claim I had this year was paid - full replacement cost. So we sent the customer another one and that was that. Don't know about the business part, but I know almost everytime I track something its LD FD or LD BD or LD SD, etc.

Originally Posted by FromBluetoBrown

You are a snake. I'm sure you are the type of guy who gets his rocks off watching Micheal Moore videos.

Actually, Micheal Moore disgusts me.

Originally Posted by 705red

Maybe in your perfect little world everything is peachy and nothing ever goes wrong. Yes we have damaged packages, yes some times its our fault and sometimes its the shippers fault. Ok mr i started my own stupid webite what would you do to insure that a box would never get damaged? I see you and your little merry cult followers painting the picture that we destroy the packages on purpose and nothing could be farther from the truth. Let me ask you do you drive? How many miles a year? For how many years? Have you ever had an accident? Or how about a car break down? Its probably ups's fault for this too, right?

How about not delivering packages at all? Instead of delivering them, putting them on the hearse to VA? Ever do any of that? Nah, I am sure not.

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Drivers are taking short cuts so they can speed their routes up due to unreasonable expectations put on them. Shortcuts like throwing the package the last 20 feet to the customer's door. Not really the driver's fault that such things are done, but it is sure not the customer's fault by any stretch. Its the management's fault. Put the blame where it belongs.

[retired]

Uh Huh, way to promote your website here. Stumbling all over the premise of the site which is UPS employees destroy packages and then pretending you side with the drivers by saying your blame management.

You are only here to get people to look at your website which is designed to defame UPSers and mock how badly we all do our jobs.

It's all self promotion at our expense.

[brownrodster]

Originally Posted by UnitedPackageSmashers

Drivers are taking short cuts so they can speed their routes up due to unreasonable expectations put on them. Shortcuts like throwing the package the last 20 feet to the customer's door. Not really the driver's fault that such things are done, but it is sure not the customer's fault by any stretch. Its the management's fault. Put the blame where it belongs.

If you think drivers are bad then you ought to know what goes on in the hubs is 20 times worse. In my opinion very little damage is caused by drivers.

[Phil800101]

Originally Posted by govols019

We deliver several million packages a day and a few get damaged. Who'd ever of thunk it?

Exactly. Our volume is higher than DHL or FedEx, so of course we're going to have more damaged packages.

Originally Posted by retired

Uh Huh, way to promote your website here. Stumbling all over the premise of the site which is UPS employees destroy packages and then pretending you side with the drivers by saying your blame management.

You are only here to get people to look at your website which is designed to defame UPSers and mock how badly we all do our jobs.

It's all self promotion at our expense.

Couldn't agree more. Your website is full of all this crap that bashes UPSers, claiming that we delightfully destroy packages for our own amusement, or because we don't care. Yes, some stuff gets destroyed, that's the nature of the beast. You claim to blame this on management, but time and time again on your site you fail to point out that excessive volume, heavy flow, or outdated equipment is NOT the fault of loaders/unloaders/sorters, and as a preloader I personally take offense to that. I'd like to see you do my job and load three friggin' trucks (and split a belt at the same time) while gingerly handling every package. Well, I rarely if ever cause damage to a package, and when I do it's almost always a result of bad packaging...and it is NEVER intentional. The same goes for the overwhelming majority of my co-workers, as well as the people I have seen on this site. I take pride in my work, and seeing all of the whiny people like yourself on your site lumping my fellow UPSers and I who do our jobs well with those few lunkheads out there who break stuff on purpose makes me sick. We bust our tails to make sure you people get your stuff, and all you do is complain.

The same is true for the drivers. The overwhelming majority of drivers I have ever loaded for or rode with were consumate professionals who took pride in their work and did their jobs well. Same goes for most of the drivers I have seen post on this site...they care. It is a shame that you feel the need to promote the idea that those who do a crappy job represent all of them. Blaming it on management my a**.

As for the insurance issue, I have no real say on that. All I know is that UPS is a big company with big profits...number one in the shipping buisness. Thus, it is a big target for scammers, of which there are many. I can't blame them for being skeptical of insurance claims.

Retired is right, all you are trying to do is defame and mock a company that provides excellent service to the majority of its customers. Yes, we have our flaws, but so does every company. I highly doubt that FedEx and DHL are perfect either. If we were as bad as you claim, we wouldn't have stayed at the top for as long as we have.

I think it's great that you're so happy with DHL, and I'm sure they need the buisness. Personally, I think we're doing fine without yours. I mean, it's been hard at times, but we've managed to scrape by .

[westsideworma]

Originally Posted by brownrodster

If you think drivers are bad then you ought to know what goes on in the hubs is 20 times worse. In my opinion very little damage is caused by drivers.

having been a preloader, I can tell you 90 percent of the damages that occur (on our shift) are due to too much being processed on the belts that feed the slides. The slides get backed up and then the crunching begins. Its a simple fix, but do you think we could back down our production a little bit to save damages? HAH! Heresy! get it in the trucks!!!

[Brown Dog]

It's sad but true! Get it in the trucks is the most importent thing I see in our bldg. Not safety, not treating pkgs like guest of honor ( remember that motto), Just get it in the trucks. A sorter shuts the belt off when the pace is too fast and he's 50ft down the belt, and IMMEDIATLY the p/t sup turns the belt back on, disparages the sorters, and the vicious cycle continues. Sorters and loaders end up with bad attitudes, pkgs are treated with disrespect. It takes time to do a job right and it appears to me, UPS just wants to get it done. And contrary to popular belief, This is not the most wonderful time of the year, at least not for the pkgs that got loaded in my 10 cube the past two weeks. Packed like sardines in a can and not always with the heaviest on the bottom I think united pkg smashers is an ass who would rather complain , whine and ask why me instead of trying to make the best out of it. But I don' think everything he says is false. There's always room for improvement but I don't believe UPS wants to make the time allowance for it.

[dillweed]

Well, Hello Kieth. Oldsorter here. Unfortunately your website is made up of several little nastoids who still live with Mommy and Daddy. I used to come to the site in an effort to diffuse some of the negativity and try to help newcomers to understand and deal with the nature of UPS. It was a losing battle - kind of like trying to convince a bunch of three-year olds that they must brush their teeth every day.

It's a shame that your life is so full of hatred that you try and spread it to others. For crying out loud, let it go. You are poisoning yourself as well as convincing those kids that they have some sort of power. Heck, they haven't even begun to carry their own weight in the adult world so how can they appreciate carrying their share at work?

Take a look at your posters. Does anyone with common sense and a desire to succeed in life stick around? No one stays but the rotters. The last post I made referred to one of them as poisonous and that was the end for me.

You're not a stupid man by any means. Think about using your energy and intelligence for your own good. Forget UPS and don't ever, ever use them again. It will be that many less computers I have to hoist up to the top belt. And Happy Holidays to you! Peace. love and respect to all. os

[diesel96]

Unitedpackagesmasher, I recommend you "walk away from your computer", go outside, take a deep inhale of air/oxygen and give us a big "woosaaa" as you exhale. Then go back inside and change your astronaut diaper, empty your pee cup and clean that giz of your computer keyboard. And get a life ! Better yet, get a girlfriend .

[over9five]

"Actually, Micheal Moore disgusts me."

Welcome to the site, UnitedPackageSmashers. Couldn't agree moore (uhh, MORE).

Anyhow people, I see nothing wrong with UPSmashers posting here. He writes well and doesn't swear......

.....Although I once said that about someone else who went off the deep end. Who was that? Anyone remember?

That said UPSmashers, I think your website could just as easily be about Fedex or DHL.

I agree with whoever mentioned that DHL will dr anything, anywhere. Those people won't even try to hide it, and oviously don't need signatures for anything.

I can't count how many times I've seen Fedex packages left at businesses that have moved! What's with that?

Let's not even talk about the post office! Anything that won't fit in your mailbox is elasticed (sp?) to the box, who cares if it's pouring rain.

We all have damages, maybe we have the most - I don't know. But I can tell you all that WE are the most professional out there. No one else comes close.

[HazMatMan]

Originally Posted by westsideworma

having been a preloader, I can tell you 90 percent of the damages that occur (on our shift) are due to too much being processed on the belts that feed the slides. The slides get backed up and then the crunching begins. Its a simple fix, but do you think we could back down our production a little bit to save damages? HAH! Heresy! get it in the trucks!!!

I agree..

[UnitedPackageSmashers]

Originally Posted by dillweed

Well, Hello Kieth. Oldsorter here. Unfortunately your website is made up of several little nastoids who still live with Mommy and Daddy. I used to come to the site in an effort to diffuse some of the negativity and try to help newcomers to understand and deal with the nature of UPS. It was a losing battle - kind of like trying to convince a bunch of three-year olds that they must brush their teeth every day.

It's a shame that your life is so full of hatred that you try and spread it to others. For crying out loud, let it go. You are poisoning yourself as well as convincing those kids that they have some sort of power. Heck, they haven't even begun to carry their own weight in the adult world so how can they appreciate carrying their share at work?

Take a look at your posters. Does anyone with common sense and a desire to succeed in life stick around? No one stays but the rotters. The last post I made referred to one of them as poisonous and that was the end for me.

You're not a stupid man by any means. Think about using your energy and intelligence for your own good. Forget UPS and don't ever, ever use them again. It will be that many less computers I have to hoist up to the top belt. And Happy Holidays to you! Peace. love and respect to all. os

I think I remember you on the forums, actually. We're going to clean house in the forums pretty soon - there has been alot of crap over there that needs to be cleaned up. The spam problem is under control, now its time for some people to hit the road. The site was more or less neglected for the last couple of years. That has changed, I am redoubling my efforts on that site and several others.

I am not exactly "full of hate" as you put it. I am disgusted with UPS. Sadly, I don't have a choice over who people use to send their stuff to me alot of the time. Many companies pick their carrier and thats that. My issue with UPS continues to this day. Heck, the IRS sent some legal documents to a relative a year ago. UPS returned it to sender, saying that *I* refused it. I haven't lived at that address for close to a decade now and the only thing I had sent there was 4 cases of bubble mailers, which the driver left outside piled against the back door without obtaining a signature while everyone was gone for the weekend and it rained. I raised a huge stink about it and they tried to wiggle out of the claim but I made it stick. I assume the driver got yelled at and decided to get his revenge by playing with the IRS correspondence.

[UnitedPackageSmashers]

Originally Posted by retired

Uh Huh, way to promote your website here. Stumbling all over the premise of the site which is UPS employees destroy packages and then pretending you side with the drivers by saying your blame management.

You are only here to get people to look at your website which is designed to defame UPSers and mock how badly we all do our jobs.

It's all self promotion at our expense.

Uhm, I didn't start the thread. It was started over a year ago by someone else, long before I was even here. I installed new software on my site that tells me who is linking in so I can see what other people are saying. I saw this thread so I decided to come in and see what was going on and I found this thread. The site is designed to expose (and mock) those who do their jobs poorly. That seems to include almost all of the management and about 5% of the rank and file. I don't blame the 95% for the 5%, but I do blame the management and UPS as a company (same thing) for the 5%.

Originally Posted by UnitedPackageSmashers

Uhm, I didn't start the thread. It was started over a year ago by someone else, long before I was even here. I installed new software on my site that tells me who is linking in so I can see what other people are saying. I saw this thread so I decided to come in and see what was going on and I found this thread. The site is designed to expose (and mock) those who do their jobs poorly. That seems to include almost all of the management and about 5% of the rank and file. I don't blame the 95% for the 5%, but I do blame the management and UPS as a company (same thing) for the 5%.

LMAO You just want to attract attention to your website from this one because this one is popular. Why else respond a thread that's a year old?

Your website disrespects UPSERS but comes to our site to get views. What have you got to say that doesn't make us look bad?

Never mind, I dont' want to give you any reasons to post here.

[DS]

Originally Posted by UnitedPackageSmashers

Heck, the IRS sent some legal documents to a relative a year ago. UPS returned it to sender, saying that *I* refused it. I haven't lived at that address for close to a decade now.
UPS has no control over the addresses on the packages,even your relatives deny knowledge of your existance;.

I think you have realized that smashers.com is pretty lame compared to this site,and you are bored there so you come here now.As a ups employee I feel a bit reluctant accepting you to our community.You obviously have some issues.You have to realize that most people that visit the browncafe are hard working individuals that hate when packages get damaged.We dont set out to break things.

[govols019]

Heck, the IRS sent some legal documents to a relative a year ago. UPS returned it to sender, saying that *I* refused it. I haven't lived at that address for close to a decade now

Please explain this one in greater detail. I don't see what UPS did wrong. Please also explain how UPS said YOU refused it.