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| Package CarsThis is a discussion on Package Cars within the UPS Discussions forums, part of the Brown Cafe UPS Forum category; I have seen different package cars mentioned and I was wondering what's the difference among the package cars? The only ...  | | 
05-07-2008, 09:40 AM
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#1 | | Junior Member
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I have seen different package cars mentioned and I was wondering what's the difference among the package cars? The only one that I know for sure is a P600. | 
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05-07-2008, 11:39 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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Most people are just talking about size. | |
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05-07-2008, 04:51 PM
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we have old P500's in our centre that are over 30 years old. They need to be retired.... | |
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05-07-2008, 06:00 PM
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#4 | | Box Monkey
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The bigger the number, the bigger the car. Usuallly that's true anyway.
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05-07-2008, 07:04 PM
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#5 | | Backwoods Hillbilly
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P600= 600 cubic feet of storage in box.
Bigger the number = more cubic feet of storage space. | |
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05-08-2008, 02:56 AM
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i have two trucks a one thousand and an A2 van, so how is the size firgured on the A2 van? It is freaking big, that is for sure! | |
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05-08-2008, 08:03 AM
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#7 | | retired and happy
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A2= 2 cubic feet? That's like a postal mailbag  | |
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05-08-2008, 11:10 AM
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#8 | | ADKtrails
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Maybe Acres 2? | |
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05-08-2008, 06:06 PM
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#9 | | brown bomber
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haven't had a P-600 in our bldg. for quite some time....they were taken out of service or euthanized
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05-08-2008, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bugman74  i have two trucks a one thousand and an A2 van, so how is the size firgured on the A2 van? It is freaking big, that is for sure! |
Our A2 has a number that begins with 176 I think. So, maybe 1700 cube? I agree the thing is a absolute monster. | |
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05-09-2008, 10:12 AM
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#11 | | Anonymous | Re: Package Cars
An A2 is a 26 foot straight truck that has been converted with roller balls in the floor and side access doors so that it can haul 2 air cans (igloos). Thus A2. There is an air valve that can lower the roller balls below the level of the floor so it can be used for bulk delivery and pickup. An A4 is a 40 foot trailer with four positions for bringing air cans back to hub from airport. There is an A5 which is 53 feet and holds 5 cans. Old bubbletop econoline vans were p31's, Mid nineties there were new p32's. 60's and 70's had p400, p600, and p800's. The 80's brought p1000's, p1200's. Now there are a new p57 to relace the p500's. The sprinter vans are p47's. | |
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05-09-2008, 09:21 PM
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A P500 was a good truck. Only thing you had to remember was to duck going out the rear doors. I chipped a tooth one time when I forgot.
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05-10-2008, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Cementups The bigger the number, the bigger the car. Usuallly that's true anyway. |
Cement,
I don't think that's the case anymore. We have p12's with numbers like 132453 and p10's with a number like 141223.
On a side note, does anyone know how long its going to take to replace the fleet with new automatic, powel steering diesel vehicels?
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05-10-2008, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by browniehound Cement,
I don't think that's the case anymore. We have p12's with numbers like 132453 and p10's with a number like 141223.
On a side note, does anyone know how long its going to take to replace the fleet with new automatic, powel steering diesel vehicels? | Nope, it's not perfectly the case anymore but for all general chatting. It still holds true and makes sense. | |
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05-10-2008, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by browniehound Cement,
I don't think that's the case anymore. We have p12's with numbers like 132453 and p10's with a number like 141223.
On a side note, does anyone know how long its going to take to replace the fleet with new automatic, powel steering diesel vehicels? | I think we have at least 3 p12's with drasticaly different numbering schemes. Quite a few p10's that start with 141. A bunch of p5's and a ton of p7's. Not sure if we have any p6's. Also have a bunch of those huge straight trucks that do huge bulk stops and pickups. My absolute favorite trucks are the p7's. We have at least 3 different models of automatic p7's, maybe more. | 
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05-11-2008, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by browniehound On a side note, does anyone know how long its going to take to replace the fleet with new automatic, powel steering diesel vehicels? | Haha, keep dreaming bud. | |
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05-11-2008, 03:08 PM
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#17 | | Bitingthe Hand that Feeds
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Originally Posted by browniehound On a side note, does anyone know how long its going to take to replace the fleet with new automatic, powel steering diesel vehicels? | Some bean-counting moron from I.E. made a rule that UPS must get 30 years of service out of each vehicle, no matter what. We had a P-600 that threw a rod when it was 29 1/2 years old. The mechanics had to install a completely new engine in it...after which it got driven once or twice as a shop spare before they hauled it off and crushed it.
We currently have P-1000's in service of early 90's vintage with no power steering, 3-point seat belt etc. UPS will continue endangering the lives of its employees with these deathtraps for at least 10 or 15 more years. UPS...the company that cares.
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05-11-2008, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by govols019 A P500 was a good truck. Only thing you had to remember was to duck going out the rear doors. I chipped a tooth one time when I forgot. | I still drive one, forgetting to duck coming in from the back door will leave two indentions in your skull from the two pointed door latch points on the header of the back door.
I have never been knocked out in my life, but twice I have gone done to my knees while climbing into my P5 from the back bumper.
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05-11-2008, 06:07 PM
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#19 | | Box Monkey
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Sober. Now with the new P7's they are just hoping to get 10 years out of these vehicles.
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05-12-2008, 10:25 AM
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#20 | | Bitingthe Hand that Feeds
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Originally Posted by Cementups Sober. Now with the new P7's they are just hoping to get 10 years out of these vehicles. | The best truck I ever had was a 1996 International P700 with the 5-speed trans and Powerstroke diesel. It was gutless, but it was a very good work platform. Low to the ground, plenty of legroom, etc. They took it away from me and sent it down to Eugene about 6 months ago, it was running just fine with a tad over 200,000 miles on it. I'm quite sure they could get 30 years or more out of it as long as they are willing to replace the engine a couple of times.
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05-12-2008, 01:27 PM
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We got a couple of old P500, from Cape Cod I was told. Good solid work horses, but could be better if they were automatics, since they are to replace the P32's , which are quickly falling apart.
Just last week 2 P32s from Worcester showed up. These cars are like new ( to us ) built in 2000 and having under 200,000 miles each. | |
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05-12-2008, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by soberups The best truck I ever had was a 1996 International P700 with the 5-speed trans and Powerstroke diesel. It was gutless, but it was a very good work platform. Low to the ground, plenty of legroom, etc. They took it away from me and sent it down to Eugene about 6 months ago, it was running just fine with a tad over 200,000 miles on it. I'm quite sure they could get 30 years or more out of it as long as they are willing to replace the engine a couple of times. | I've driven 2 routes that had them. The gas pedals are electronic - there is no accelerator cable. I had one with a bad pedal where you could walk faster than the car would run with the pedal to the floor. The mechanic had to change the pedal. The other had issues with go power. That one needed a new turbo. They both went plenty fast after repairs.
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05-12-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by browniehound On a side note, does anyone know how long its going to take to replace the fleet with new automatic, power steering diesel vehicels? | I got mine last week and it is sweet. Automatic, power steering, 3 point seat belt, wipers and washer that actually work, heater that works. The only "problem" is that it seems to swing a bit bigger in the turns but, beyond that, it should make my last 11 years much more bearable, at least from a pkg car stand point.
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