Opt in-Opt out list victory!

[IDoLessWorkThanMost]

Originally Posted by tieguy

Uncle Buster is not threatening you to keep your from signing the list. Uncle Buster is telling you that if you sign the list then you better be hittin and gitten and not screwing off on the route. My guess is the slackers will get lock in rides and the guys that normally do a good job will get little attention.

They'll probably build a sleeper birth in the back of griffs car...

Tie...word from the old-timers I worked with daily (30+ers, 5 of them) that today's UPS driver faces far greater stress and work performance issues than that of pre-public or 20 years ago. Your post makes perfect sense - except that there are ( at least in my experience) far fewer ham and eggers in today's breed than previously.

Nice post though. 9-5 in theory should ensure that each hard working, grind it out driver does exactly that - work hard for his money ; but at the same time fairly and not face an enormous amount of work that he/she could not feasibly do in a reasonable amount of work hours.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Griff

Don't you think I would have been fired by now if I wasn't doing my job correctly? I've probably been followed on area more times than you've followed people on area in your whole career. What we have here is another clear cut case of a manager harboring illwill against someone who fights back. I file grievances and know my rights therefore I'm lazy, bad at my job and a thief. Business as usual.

P.S. - Happy mother's day lieguy.

If you did your job correctly you wouldn't have the guilty feeling that they are watching you. They have much better things to be doing.

[rod]

Like what? Juggle figures?

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by rod

Like what? Juggle figures?

Absolutely....the last thing they want to be doing is going out on road.

[rod]

unless the big wigs are coming in- then they all jump on a package car

[Griff]

Originally Posted by New Englander

If you did your job correctly you wouldn't have the guilty feeling that they are watching you. They have much better things to be doing.

The guilty feeling? It's a plain fact when I look behind or to the side and see the CM's car and the division manager sitting next to him. There's no guilty feeling involved, not on my part anyway. However, I would feel guilty if I was in management and collecting a paycheck for what these guys do in the building everyday.

You go out of your way on these boards to respond to nearly every post I make. You should probably stop trolling before you end up like lieguy, embarrassed and humiliated beyond recognition.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Griff

The guilty feeling? It's a plain fact when I look behind or to the side and see the CM's car and the division manager sitting next to him. There's no guilty feeling involved, not on my part anyway. However, I would feel guilty if I was in management and collecting a paycheck for what these guys do in the building everyday.

You go out of your way on these boards to respond to nearly every post I make. You should probably stop trolling before you end up like lieguy, embarrassed and humiliated beyond recognition.

only embarrassed when I accidentally step into all the BS you sling. Folks in philly thought they saw a centaur running the streets. Turned out it was just griff with a sup up his rear getting his daily OJS.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by tieguy

only embarrassed when I accidentally step into all the BS you sling. Folks in philly thought they saw a centaur running the streets. Turned out it was just griff with a sup up his rear getting his daily OJS.

Give it a rest. I've slapped the taste out of your mouth on these boards. I'm surprised you haven't put me on ignore like the rest of the people who can't handle reality.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by tieguy

only embarrassed when I accidentally step into all the BS you sling. Folks in philly thought they saw a centaur running the streets. Turned out it was just griff with a sup up his rear getting his daily OJS.

Yeah Griff.....the Division Manager is out following you around. LOL!

What planet are you from again? My god!

[UpstateNYUPSer]

Originally Posted by Griff

...I'm surprised you haven't put me on ignore like the rest of the people who can't handle reality.

Griff, I don't have an issue with you, although I do think that you and Tie should take your comedy routine on the road, perhaps as a UPS fundraiser to buy Big Brown a new saddle. I am writing to express my support of the ignore feature of this forum. There are several members of this forum whose posts I simply don't want to read and, for that reason, I have added their names to my ignore list, which currently has 3 members and includes a certain Really Old Driver who has yet to be able to move on after his retirement and has yet to realize that this is not the same UPS that he worked for. My use of the ignore feature has absolutely nothing to do with my being unable to handle reality--I simply don't want to read the posts from these members and, as such, have chosen to ignore them. Now, if this feature had only been available during my marriage...

[JustTired]

Originally Posted by New Englander

Yeah Griff.....the Division Manager is out following you around. LOL!

What planet are you from again? My god!

The silver lining to following someone around all the time is that if they're doing that, that's less time to come up with some other hair-brain scheme.

Besides....once they've echoed the commands from above....there's not a lot left to do. Of course, in our center, that would cut down on shopping and haircare time!

[rod]

[quote=UpstateNYUPSer;338467]Griff, I don't have an issue with you, although I do think that you and Tie should take your comedy routine on the road, perhaps as a UPS fundraiser to buy Big Brown a new saddle. I am writing to express my support of the ignore feature of this forum. There are several members of this forum whose posts I simply don't want to read and, for that reason, I have added their names to my ignore list, which currently has 3 members and includes a certain Really Old Driver who has yet to be able to move on after his retirement and has yet to realize that this is not the same UPS that he worked for. My use of the ignore feature has absolutely nothing to do with my being unable to handle reality--I simply don't want to read the posts from these members and, as such, have chosen to ignore them. Now, if this feature had only been available during my marriage...[/quot

[rod]

Have a good day upstate-- I know your not ignoring me

[BigBrownSanta]

[quote=rod;338475]

Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

Griff, I don't have an issue with you, although I do think that you and Tie should take your comedy routine on the road, perhaps as a UPS fundraiser to buy Big Brown a new saddle. I am writing to express my support of the ignore feature of this forum. There are several members of this forum whose posts I simply don't want to read and, for that reason, I have added their names to my ignore list, which currently has 3 members and includes a certain Really Old Driver who has yet to be able to move on after his retirement and has yet to realize that this is not the same UPS that he worked for. My use of the ignore feature has absolutely nothing to do with my being unable to handle reality--I simply don't want to read the posts from these members and, as such, have chosen to ignore them. Now, if this feature had only been available during my marriage...[/quot

Posting as an unregistered guest will bypass the ignore function, i think.

BTW, Rod, I agree.

[outta hours]

It's time for a group hug, then we can hold hands and sing Kumbya . Then we can get this thread back on topic.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by Griff

Give it a rest. I've slapped the taste out of your mouth on these boards. I'm surprised you haven't put me on ignore like the rest of the people who can't handle reality.

put you on ignore? I have too much fun slapping your stupid behind around. I'm surprised someone has not accused you of being a management suck up the way you keep serving me shots to kill you with.

[Forty6and2]

my CM told me last week that the opt in/opt out list language only protects the full-time drivers in our center. there is no protection for cover drivers so they can work them over 9.5 as many times as like without consequence from the cover drivers.

[big_arrow_up]

The list went up in our district recently. Only about a third of the full-timers have signed it. Most of the drivers that haven't signed have no idea what the list is even for. There are more people in the center that aren't in the union than I thought. They don't know squat about the new contract and some of them don't even realize that we are under the new contract (minus economical language) right now. I was trying to explain how the list works to four drivers the other day and they just laughed and blew me off when I told them that by not signing it they could be sent out over 9.5 everyday and they wouldn't be able to grieve it. Three of them have over 20 years with UPS and since I only have 10 they assumed I didn't know what I was talking about and laughed among themselves about what I was trying to tell them. In the end the joke will be on them I think. They just don't understand that by not signing the list they are giving up their right to grieve for being dispatched over 9.5.

[slowdriver]

I'd like to see them post a over 8 list because im sick and tired of working over 8 hours every day, I'm happy they posted the 9.5 list i hope it works, I think a better idea would be for the Unions to lobby Congress to raise the overtime pay from time and a half to double time I mean really how long has it been time and a half anyway. we come out on the short end of the deal working over time, we pay more in income tax, we are at work longer than we want to be, we are away from our family longer.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Forty6and2

my CM told me last week that the opt in/opt out list language only protects the full-time drivers in our center. there is no protection for cover drivers so they can work them over 9.5 as many times as like without consequence from the cover drivers.

I DO hope you called him/her on it.
There is no difference in the contract based upon bid route driver or bid cover driver.

To even think that there is......lol!