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View Poll Results: What are your flu shot plans this year? | |
I will get the regular flu shot.
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I will get the H1N1 flu shot(s).
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I will get regular AND H1N1 flu shots.
|    | 14 | 25.00% | |
I will not get any flu shots.
|    | 37 | 66.07% |
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09-19-2009, 10:22 AM
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#51 | | aka Grandstug
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Originally Posted by satellitedriver  My kinda vaccine, must be the reason I never have had influenza.
Seriously, at risk persons should take the vaccine.
As to the total threat to the general population of H1N1, I think it is an over blown reaction.
Driving on a US Public Highway kills more people, by multiples.
"Standard" regular Flu worldwide kills more people, by multiples, than H1N1.
Bath tub slips and falls kills , or injures, more people than H1N1.
I need to change my signature to;
"Worry now and beat the rush." | Nice new signature. Quote:
Originally Posted by Baba gounj It works better for new cars. If something can't be fixed after 3 attempts, then its a full refund. | Too bad Klein doesn't come with one of those.  | 
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09-21-2009, 11:03 PM
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#52 | | Vacationing in Florida
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Here the first news video will somewhat explain the difference between our H1N1 vaccine and that of the US. http://watch.ctv.ca/news/#clip215851 | |
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09-22-2009, 06:01 PM
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#53 | | aka Grandstug
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Originally Posted by klein | Your's is metric? | |
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09-22-2009, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stevetheupsguy Your's is metric? | Ours is the European one. | |
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10-01-2009, 06:54 AM
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#55 | | Boxline Sorter
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Being military I have no choice. I will get both. | |
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10-01-2009, 10:57 AM
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#56 | | Senior Member
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I refuse to get the flu shot...years back when my children were little I listened to my pediatrician who recommened that the entire family get the flu shot. Well, after that....the entire family was sick for over 3 weeks. Never again....
To date...knock on wood...we never got sick like that again... | |
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10-14-2009, 06:31 AM
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#57 | | Natural Born Citizen
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 OUTBREAK!Nurses sue to block mandatory swine-flu shot'Hundreds of co-workers feel just as strongly against the vaccine'Posted: Octobtober 13,2009 By Chelsea Schilling © 2009 WorldNetDaily  H1N1 (photo: CDC)
Several nurses are suing the state of New York to protect themselves from mandatory swine flu vaccinations – saying threats of being fired for refusing shots violate their civil rights.
Albany [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Medical [COLOR=blue ! important]Center[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] nurses face a week of [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]suspension[/COLOR][/COLOR] without pay and termination if they don't accept both the H1N1 and seasonal flu vaccinations by Oct. 27.
According to a New York mandate, all health-care workers must be vaccinated by Nov. 30.
But the four nurses argue that proper hygiene – such as [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]washing[/COLOR][/COLOR] hands and covering mouths and noses when coughing and sneezing – is an equally effective method for combating the flu. They also expressed concerns about possible [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]side [COLOR=blue ! important]effects[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] of the H1N1 vaccine.
"I have had more staff that have become ill after the flu vaccines this year than co-workers that have actually come down with the illness," Lorna Patterson, one of the nurses, told Albany's WTEN-TV.
She said she believes more time is needed to learn about the vaccine's effectiveness. Patterson, a nurse for 28 years, said she hasn't receive the flu shot since she was a teenager.
Patterson's co-worker, nurse Katheryn Dupuis, said she's only received a [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]flu [COLOR=blue ! important]shot[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] once in her 10-year career as an emergency room nurse.
"We're going to lose our jobs if we do not get this vaccine," Dupuis said. "There are hundreds of co-workers of ours that feel just as strongly against the vaccine." (Story continues below)
The nurses are collecting signatures on petitions to area hospitals and health-care providers. They have at least 500 signatures on one, and several others are circulating through the community. They have also scheduled a protest at the capitol Wednesday at 1 p.m.
According to Albany's WRGB-TV 6, the group is concerned that pharmaceutical companies have been given immunity in case complications from the vaccine arise.
The nurses plan to file their lawsuit against state Health Commissioner Dr. Richard Daines in New York Supreme Court by the end of this week.
The Department of [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]Health[/COLOR][/COLOR] says it will vigorously defend itself in the lawsuit, and health officials are confident the regulation will be upheld by the court, WXXA-TV 23 reports.
But Patterson and Dupuis said they will retire or find nursing positions outside of New York if the state doesn't withdraw its mandate.
"I don't think anybody wants to achive that kind of result," their lawyer, Terry Kindlon, told WTEN. "The health-care workers are being stampeded into this, and we're supposed to be a thoughtful, rational society that deals with things through due process and careful reflection. That's not what [New York] wants them to do here.
"They're saying, 'Look you guys, get the shots or in the next two weeks, you're on the street.' That's criminal. That's ridiculous. That's insane."
Aother lawsuit filed in New York City against Daines and Jeffrey Kraut, chairman of the state Hospital Planning and Review Council, argues that the state does not have the authority to mandate vaccines.
Kindlon said other lawsuits are arising throughout the state, and the New York Civil Liberties Union may file a legal complaint in coming weeks. | |
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10-14-2009, 06:40 AM
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Sorry, I think all health care workers should get a flu shot. I darn well don't want them working on me if they haven't got one.
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10-14-2009, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by moreluck Klein, don't you have a Mensa meeting ?? | ha ha
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10-14-2009, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by klein Have no attention pumping my body with potential deadly viruses. I know too many people getting sicker then ever after flu-shots. Even the goverment doesn't even know if the H1N1 flu-shot is safe, or effective. It is free here, so cost is of no matter, but, I'm kinda flu-immune anyways. I would worry more, effecting myself with those shots.
Here's a nice link from a Doctors website (it's partly funny, too, but sadly also true).
(Ingredients of flu-shots). http://drbenkim.com/flu-shot-ingredients-dangers.htm | Not surprising, considering how your country was founded.
For those who don't know, Canada was once part of the united states and it was a territory. Hockey was popular in this territory and many people lost their teeth as a result of their participation in the sport and consequently needed dentures. The dentures were expensive and not very well made due to the monopoly of dentists. There were denturists who could make better and cheaper dentures but they were viciously prosecuted.
Finally, the residents of the northern territories had enough and revolted violently . The slogan that was heard throughout the streets was Can the ADA (American Dental Association) . The slogan was repeated vociferously and quickly and it sounded like this "CANTHEADA.. CANTHEADA..." . Evenutally the slogan ending up morphing and sounded like this "CANADA.. CANADA ".
The revolt was successful, Canada was founded: a land where denturists can practice their craft in peace.
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10-14-2009, 01:03 PM
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#61 | | golden ticket member
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flu shot = dead virus
flu mist = live virus
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10-14-2009, 01:27 PM
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#62 | | Vacationing in Florida
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Originally Posted by pickup Not surprising, considering how your country was founded.
For those who don't know, Canada was once part of the united states and it was a territory. Hockey was popular in this territory and many people lost their teeth as a result of their participation in the sport and consequently needed dentures. The dentures were expensive and not very well made due to the monopoly of dentists. There were denturists who could make better and cheaper dentures but they were viciously prosecuted.
Finally, the residents of the northern territories had enough and revolted violently . The slogan that was heard throughout the streets was Can the ADA (American Dental Association) . The slogan was repeated vociferously and quickly and it sounded like this "CANTHEADA.. CANTHEADA..." . Evenutally the slogan ending up morphing and sounded like this "CANADA.. CANADA ".
The revolt was successful, Canada was founded: a land where denturists can practice their craft in peace. | Totally unrelated, but, here is your "peace prize" Us 3 in southern Afghanistan. | |
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10-18-2009, 09:48 AM
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To date, 86 children in the US have died from H1N1. There is still not enough vaccine available for injection. Where is it???
I got my seasonal flu shot Friday.
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10-18-2009, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by over9five To date, 86 children in the US have died from H1N1. There is still not enough vaccine available for injection. Where is it???
I got my seasonal flu shot Friday. | Whatcha bitching about ? We don't even have ours yet. Not until November. No one dying here yet, though.
But, I did hear the US will have a shortfall of 12 Mill shots.
We will have like 30 Mill leftover or more.
But different vaccine, but probably would send them to the US if in need, and accepted. | |
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10-18-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by klein Whatcha bitching about ? . | Children are DYING while the government lollygags getting these vaccines to providers. What is our President doing????
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10-18-2009, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by over9five Children are DYING while the government lollygags getting these vaccines to providers. What is our President doing???? | Watching the Giants/Saints game.
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10-18-2009, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by over9five Children are DYING while the government lollygags getting these vaccines to providers. What is our President doing???? | Leave it up to wkmac.
Won't be a government or President to provide anything.
As far as your question : He's probably busy with his family getting the shots as we speak. | |
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10-18-2009, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by klein Leave it up to wkmac.
Won't be a government or President to provide anything.
As far as your question : He's probably busy with his family getting the shots as we speak. | I remember him saying, "We (the Obamas) will stand in line with everyone else to get our flu shots".
Do you think they really go to a flu clinic and wait in line???
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10-18-2009, 10:43 AM
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"We will stand in line like everyone else".
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10-18-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by over9five I remember him saying, "We (the Obamas) will stand in line with everyone else to get our flu shots".
Do you think they really go to a flu clinic and wait in line??? | I think they will stand in line at the White House unless there is a need for a photo op.
That would be a lot less expensive for the government and less disruptive for the public.
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10-18-2009, 10:47 AM
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Ah, so the 4 of them make their own line. Probably correct! The photo op is a possibility.
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10-18-2009, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by over9five Ah, so the 4 of them make their own line. Probably correct! The photo op is a possibility. | Maybe they'll have Air Force One do a fly over so's to make for a nice background.  | |
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10-20-2009, 07:10 AM
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According to this story, it may be too late for the H1N1 vaccine.... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568607,00.html
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10-20-2009, 07:25 AM
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My son went to his doctor yesterday for a regular check-up, and he got the H1N1 vaccine.
He does have "underlying medical issues", so I'm not sure if they were giving it to everyone.
Teamstercare is giving out seasonal flu shots on Halloween, and my doctor has a flu clinic Nov 4, but I got my seasonal shot last week because I think those dates are too late.
Who knows when H1N1 will be available to the general public? I agree it is getting late....
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10-20-2009, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by moreluck | More, did you notice the results for that poll?
33%, 33%, and 33%!
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