Who is Obama

[GlenBurnie]

Oh, you are just counting US deaths? Here I thought that Iraqi deaths counted too, my bad.

Try here:
http://icasualties.org/oif/

Work on your reading comprehension. I stated accurate figures in my first post.

[av8torntn]

Originally Posted by GlenBurnie

Oh, you are just counting US deaths? Here I thought that Iraqi deaths counted too, my bad.

Try here:
http://icasualties.org/oif/

Work on your reading comprehension. I stated accurate figures in my first post.

Ok that link you gave says there is less than a one per day average as well. It reports the same number per month as the site I gave you. Not sure what you are trying to say but it appears that you agree with the chain email.

It also appears that Chicago has almost three times the national average for the murder rate.

[GlenBurnie]

Read the whole page. I'll help you out, look in the middle column for a heading that says:
'Support iCasualties
Iraqi Security Forces and Civilian Deaths Details'

Adding the per month totals of Iraqi deaths, civilian and security forces, totals 3908 for the first six months of 2008.

The military deaths for the first six months totals 214. US deaths YTD are 269. This doesn't count wounded, as I'm sure you are well aware.

Of course the 236 coalition force deaths in thew forgotten war (Afghanistan) are not included.

Civilian deaths are undercounted, and are based on actual body counts, not 'disappeared' persons.

Facts confuse you?

[av8torntn]

Originally Posted by GlenBurnie

Read the whole page. I'll help you out, look in the middle column for a heading that says:
'Support iCasualties
Iraqi Security Forces and Civilian Deaths Details'

Adding the per month totals of Iraqi deaths, civilian and security forces, totals 3908 for the first six months of 2008.

I understand why you feel the need to add the Iraqi deaths to the original number. It is because you must feel there is some validity to the email.

The fact still remains that there were 443 murders in Chicago in 2007.

[wkmac]

Who is Obama?

Hmmmm! Let me see! Well you could say! Then again!

Maybe instead, the question should be Who is Saul Alinsky?

[The Other Side]

The initial topic of this thread was "WHO IS OBAMA"?

I can say who OBAMA is very clearly. Despite all the slander, name calling, reminders that he is black, claims that he is muslim or arabic, connected to terrorists and thieves, wont wear a flag pin, does'nt salute the flag and all the other right wing propaganda aimed at "swift Boating" him...

Obama is going to be the next president of the United States hands down.

Link of electoral map
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/

NO CANDIDATE SINCE DEWEY HELD THE LEAD IN THE POLLS GOING INTO AN ELECTION AT THIS POINT IN AN ELECTION AND LOST!

The polls are telling the story. McCain is falling like a rock. Sarah Palin turned out to be the poison pill that sunk his navy campaign ship of fools!

link:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...obama-225.html

There are big money bets on this campaign:
Intrade Political 'Securities'PercentageUS$ TradedBarack Obama to win 2008 US Presidential Election 68.0% $7.8M John McCain to win 2008 US Presidential Election 32.3% $7.5M

Does'nt look like McCain is a favorite here either!

Say what you want, post what you want, slander all you can, name call Obama for the next 4 weeks, it will not matter.

Its all over but the crying!

Barack Hussein Obama will be the next President of the United States of America and you can all thank the Republican party for this honor.

8 years of horrible leadership
8 years of war mongering
8 years of lies
8 years of gouging the american public on gas
8 years of protecting the most greedy of all americans
8 years of foreign policy failures
8 years of corrupt party members who ended up in prison
8 years of failed domestic policies aka KATRINA
8 years of the transference of wealth

The Majority of Americans are being heard now, the polls in each state say so. No disputing that. Those who cling to the glimmer of hope for McCain will be the last to accept reality.

That's who Obama is.

[over9five]

C'mon, Brownshark!

In the same post that you whine about Obama being victim to namecalling, you do the same to McCain!!

Poison pill, ship of fools. Why is it alright for Democrats to namecall, but not Republicans?

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by GlenBurnie

Geez, Is everything you post a copy and paste of someone else's misinformation?

So far this year there there have been about 1000 soldiers and police killed in Iraq. The civilian death toll from violence has been averaging about 28 deaths/day.

.

whats the civilan death toll in the united states?

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by The Other Side

The initial topic of this thread was "WHO IS OBAMA"?

I can say who OBAMA is very clearly. Despite all the slander, name calling, reminders that he is black, claims that he is muslim or arabic, connected to terrorists and thieves, wont wear a flag pin, does'nt salute the flag and all the other right wing propaganda aimed at "swift Boating" him...

Obama is going to be the next president of the United States hands down.

Link of electoral map
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/

NO CANDIDATE SINCE DEWEY HELD THE LEAD IN THE POLLS GOING INTO AN ELECTION AT THIS POINT IN AN ELECTION AND LOST!

The polls are telling the story. McCain is falling like a rock. Sarah Palin turned out to be the poison pill that sunk his navy campaign ship of fools!

link:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...obama-225.html

There are big money bets on this campaign:
Intrade Political 'Securities'PercentageUS$ TradedBarack Obama to win 2008 US Presidential Election 68.0% $7.8M John McCain to win 2008 US Presidential Election 32.3% $7.5M

Does'nt look like McCain is a favorite here either!

Say what you want, post what you want, slander all you can, name call Obama for the next 4 weeks, it will not matter.

Its all over but the crying!

Barack Hussein Obama will be the next President of the United States of America and you can all thank the Republican party for this honor.

8 years of horrible leadership
8 years of war mongering
8 years of lies
8 years of gouging the american public on gas
8 years of protecting the most greedy of all americans
8 years of foreign policy failures
8 years of corrupt party members who ended up in prison
8 years of failed domestic policies aka KATRINA
8 years of the transference of wealth

The Majority of Americans are being heard now, the polls in each state say so. No disputing that. Those who cling to the glimmer of hope for McCain will be the last to accept reality.

That's who Obama is.

If you're right it he will be the first president created and elected by the media starting with Oprah Winfrey and followed through by the rock star hype the media has presented since.

[The Other Side]

Reality is reality. I know its hard to accept when you had your hopes set so high for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Now I see the focus is going to be on the Media electing the next president, not the disastrous 8 years under Republican control.

Face facts, the majority of the American Public are not going to elect a Republican this time around. Game over. Sure, there are those diehard supporters who will vote for McCain even though it means hurting themselves (some call it principle) but this election so far is looking like a bigger blowout than the Time Sen Dole tried to run for office.

Take a look at the electoral numbers for Dole/Kemp:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mccain/?map=13

Now take a look at the projections for Obama/Biden as of today:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo..._mccain/?map=5

The consensus is relatively the same, Blowout!

The economy is front and center now, All the bashing by the conservatives in the media has failed to swing this election. No swift boating this time around.

Like the saying goes: Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me. People are not that dumb anymore.

Even Rassmussen reports, the Fox news run polling company has John McCain losing big time. They dont even bother trying to make it close anymore cause it was causing them to lose credibility keepng the race a tie.

Read what Rassmussen says about this race as of today:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

[UPS Lifer]

Originally Posted by moreluck

CHICAGO



Body count. In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in

Chicago , 221 killed in Iraq.



Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan, Mayor Richard Daley.....our leadership in Illinois .....all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago . Of course they're all

blaming each other. Can't blame Republicans, there aren't any!

State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook

County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country



Chicago school system one of the worst in country. This is the

political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois . He's gonna "fix"

Washington politics? ___________________________________

You keep coping and pasting ... it is always good stuff!

[UPS Lifer]

Originally Posted by tieguy

If you're right it he will be the first president created and elected by the media starting with Oprah Winfrey and followed through by the rock star hype the media has presented since.

Tie,
You know another stumbling point to the "Pull Out" theory that BO keeps talking about in Iraq is that we have troops all over the world and in some countries such as Germany and Japan just to name two. These troops have been there since WWII.

I don't understand why this has not been emphasized by McCain in any of the debates or town hall meetings so far. Our bases are strategic points for defense in these countries and I don't see us pulling out of Iraq and losing a strategic advantage there. I don't understand why people can't look forward and see that losing a strategic advantage of US operations causes us to weaken our world position?

[scratch]

I thought this was an interesting article from the National Taxpayers Union:

http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?Pr...1&org_name=NTU

[UPS Lifer]

Originally Posted by scratch

I thought this was an interesting article from the National Taxpayers Union:

http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?Pr...1&org_name=NTU

Great Article to make a point. I saw an interview on camera in Ohio, 2 days ago. This "non-partisan volunteer was picking homeless people up and shuttling them to the voter registration center. She was asked by the reporter if she was telling them who to vote for. She stated 3 times that she would tell them to vote for Obama until someone off camera told her to shut up and get over here!

This is illegal, unethical and the worst type of voter fraud. It is similar to the ACORN practices mentioned in the article.

[moreluck]

The Marine and Mr Obama..........


One sunny day in 2009 an old man approached the White House
from across Pennsylvania Avenue , where he'd been sitting on a
park bench.

He spoke to the U.S. Marine standing guard and said, 'I
would like to go in and meet with President Obama.'

The Marine looked at the man and said, 'Sir, Mr. Obama
didn't win the election and he is not the president.'

The old man said, 'Okay' and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House
and said to the same Marine, 'I would like to go in and meet with President
Obama.'

The Marine again told the man, 'Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Obama
didn't win and he is NOT the president.'

The man thanked him and, again, just walked away.

The third day, the same man approached the White House and
spoke to the very same U. S. Marine, saying 'I would like to go in and
meet with President Obama.'

The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked
at the man and said, 'Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been
here asking to speak to Mr. Obama. I've told you already that Mr. Obama
did not win the election and he is NOT the president. Don't you
understand?'

The old man looked at the Marine and said, 'Oh, I understand. I just love hearing it.'

The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, 'See you tomorrow.'





A Taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.



Poor People have been voting for Democrats
for the last 50 years ... and they are still poor.

Sir Charles Barkley

[diesel96]

The marine was just being sympathetic to the old man....for the old man was a confused Social Security and medicare recipient John McCain.

More.....do you even know who Charles Barkley Is ?.....And who dubbed him Sir ? Dennis Rodman....lol

A little bio on him...
Barkley, a Leeds native, has been talking about running for governor of his home state since he was playing with the NBA's Phoenix Suns. In 1995, he said he was considering running in 1998 as a Republican but that never materialized.
After that, Barkley continued to identify himself as a Republican until recently, when he switched to the Democratic team.
"I was a Republican until they lost their minds," he said earlier this month at a celebrity golf tournament in Nevada.
"Sir Charles" reinforced that Tuesday while speaking to a convention of public school board members in Destin, Fla.
"What I've said is I'm rich like a Republican. But I'm not one," Barkley said in remarks reported by The Birmingham News.

Might wanna update his position....

[moreluck]

You want to know if I know who the "round mound of rebound" is??? I'm from a Stockton/Malone era, so I definitely know who Charles is. (Go Suns)

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by The Other Side

Reality is reality. I know its hard to accept when you had your hopes set so high for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Now I see the focus is going to be on the Media electing the next president, not the disastrous 8 years under Republican control.

[_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Interesting argument I suppose. Vote for Obama who did nothing during his 4 years in congress because the last 8 years sucked.
certainly a compelling reason to vote for him.

I wonder who has had control of congress the last 4 years as the economy went from very good to disaterous. shhh don't talk about that.

[1989]

Originally Posted by The Other Side

The initial topic of this thread was "WHO IS OBAMA"?

I can say who OBAMA is very clearly. Despite all the slander, connected to terrorists and thieves

The sad thing is that this is true, therefore it is not slander. I believe you are what company you keep. Again please try to use facts in your arguments.

[The Other Side]

Its surprising to hear all the sour grapes BEFORE the election is over, but I understand that reality is setting in.

Reading thru the threads, while unflattering, you all are at least coming to realize Barack H. Obama is going to win this election.

Argueing otherwise is just a waste of time now.

Just today, John McCain was BOOOED by his republican crowd of supporters for asking for the rhetoric to tone down at the rallies and to be respectful of Barack Obama.

Just like in a lopsided football game, down by 6 touchdowns to the oakland raiders and only 2 minutes left in the game and no plays to win the game.

Too bad the republican party chose to play games with their electorate when they engaged in "operation moronic" in the primaries and failed to place a qualified candidate on the ballot. Rather than taking a look at the direction of the country at the time (like the democrats were) the republican machine did all they could to kill the campaigns of Romney, Guiliani, Thompson and Huckabee and now you're stuck with a decrepid old man who has flipped flopped twice as much as John Kerry.