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Old 07-06-2008, 07:35 PM   #1
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should we deport illegal immigrants?
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:18 PM   #2
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this issue isnt that cut and dry.....
id say you can stay with stipulations
1. if youre not fluent in english, within 18 months you need to be able to pass a 9th grade english test
2.you cant be found guilty of ANY crimes
3. you need to find full time employment.
4. within 3 years you need to apply for citizenship
4a. you need to be sponsored by a citizen
5. you will have a (for lack of a better term) that you need to keep in contact with, and can help you along the way.

this is for all illegals/people seeking coming in
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I think another question should be do we build fences along our borders?
Will it still be the land of the free and the home of the brave?
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:39 PM   #4
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I think another question should be do we build fences along our borders?
Will it still be the land of the free and the home of the brave?

yes.....because we will be free and there are plenty of brave people here
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this issue isnt that cut and dry.....
id say you can stay with stipulations
1. if youre not fluent in english, within 18 months you need to be able to pass a 9th grade english test
2.you cant be found guilty of ANY crimes
3. you need to find full time employment.
4. within 3 years you need to apply for citizenship
4a. you need to be sponsored by a citizen
5. you will have a (for lack of a better term) that you need to keep in contact with, and can help you along the way.

this is for all illegals/people seeking coming in
1. I think you'd be surprised how many born and bred American citizens can't pass a 9th grade English test today. Ever see the TV show, "Are you smarted than a 5th Grader ?"?
2.Agreed
3.Agreed
4.Agreed
4a.Agreed
5. Sorry, I can't decipher this one.
I would add:
6. An income tax ID should be established for each foreign person seeking to work here and SS should not be given to anyone that has not a legal citizen and has paid into the system as long as natural born citizens.

I don't think doing a roundup for deporting is a plausible solution, way too costly but I don't have an alternative plan.
There are many reasons to secure the boarders, the shear numbers of illegals here is just one of them.

A border fence is not the fix all it seems that it could be, but would dang sure slow them down. Cost is a factor also.

IMO, full and retroactive amnesty is out of the question. I don't believe that rewarding criminals is a good idea.

To the question of : Will this still be Will it still be the "land of the free and the home of the brave". Yes, the freedom of American citizens will still exist, although there are people that will argue that we are not free now. We still have the freedom to move aboout where we want, we can work anywhere we please, yadda yadda yadda. The "brave" are the American people that still have the back bone to stand up for what is right and make their stand for injustice. Fences have gates.
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People seem to have forgotten that during The Great Depression hundreds of thousands of wetbacks were shipped south. The American Railroad was built to deport them, not just to the border but all the way back to their remote villages. Thus freeing up jobs for Americans.
Why can't that be done now ?
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People seem to have forgotten that during The Great Depression hundreds of thousands of wetbacks were shipped south. The American Railroad was built to deport them, not just to the border but all the way back to their remote villages. Thus freeing up jobs for Americans.
Why can't that be done now ?
That's a good question.
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2.you cant be found guilty of ANY crimes
I agree. And seeing that every one of them is guilty of the crime of entering my country illegally, SEND THEM ALL BACK!
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This is really simple people. If you are an ILLEGAL alien, you shouldnt be here. Get your A$$ in line, with the rest of the law abiding applicants. Illegal aliens pay no taxes, they are making YOUR health care costs rise. Wake up and think for yourself.
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People seem to have forgotten that during The Great Depression hundreds of thousands of wetbacks were shipped south.

Wetbacks.... Very Nice..

Anyone here illegally should go. Period.

As a nationality, however, and in my limited scope / experience, I have never seen anyone work so hard for so little in my life. Much harder than any kid who would take the same job for the same wage.
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Thus freeing up jobs for Americans.
I dont know of one American that would do what MExicans (generic for all those here that have made it through MExico) do, and for the money they do it for.

Never have seen a white man pick tomatos since I was a kid. Dont see them doing other work either.

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