Teamsters Endorse OBAMA

sendagain · 10-04-2008, 03:45 PM

I heard Obama talking about rallying all these young people to do volunteer work in hospitals and other public areas of life. How the heck do unions who want jobs for paid union workers, back a guy who wants to promote young people doing volunteer work in exchange for college tuition credits? Where is the nurses union when your candidate starts talking that way? Or, do you already know he is totally full of it? That "chicken in every pot" angle is nothing new.

Hoaxster · 10-04-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikestrek

HOAXSTER, That kind of sound like the 80 year old guy that says he hates BLACKS. If he hasn't changed by now he never will. Based on your comment, I don't think you'll ever change eather.

Go figure.

Please explain your logic ...I sure the hell can not understand the comparison. I am not racist in any manner and have been singled out by Blacks I work with as being a good guy.
If you are trying to piss me off, you have certainly done it.

I am assuming at this point you did not spend much time studying World or American history.
Unions grew out of the Marxist and Hegelian philosophies, which became to be known as Socialism.
Unions by their very nature are Socialist. I am an ex-Union member and personally support "organized labor" representing an individual or group of individuals against a company.
Hell, I'm looking to the day when the Teamsters get off their dead butts and organize FedEx. Incidentally, if Obama is elected then the chances of this happening will be much greater than if McCain is elected. Win-Win situation for me and UPS.
I am not a Socialist but I respect the right of Unions and Democrats to have their Socialistic views...and as for being a bit of a hypocrite, I look forward to drawing Social Security. Social Securit is a Socialist program.

paidslave · 10-04-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by drewed

ok when you lose your job when the economy tanks more then it already has come talk to me about oh oh oh we should voted McCain in.
Mike a job no matter what wage is better than no wage at all, but you go ahead and fight for your better bennies and higher wage.....

You are brainwashed and I think you should give your salary back and don't use your vacation time, health insurance ect......but you will have a job! You may as well give back your Union Card because McCain will not do anything for Labor as Mike posted.....

Go now and Vote for your Captured Conrad that left his maimed wife for a millionaire heir......He will certainly help you and the maimed vets coming home to a bankrupted ecomony!

Hey Drewed, Where are the WMD's at?

That is all I want to know.......

tieguy · 10-04-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikestrek

drewed, I don't know if you have been looking around you lately but the economy has "TANKED" and we have lost jobs under the BUSH Republican economic plan. 8 years of Repupublican rule and you still want to vote Republican. OH! and don't talk about the Democrat congress because as it turns out they have only been in two (2) years.

It turns out the same government you republicans hate just saved all of our a$.

I'm going with a fresh new option with Obama, Also I'm voting for a president that will work with both Corporations and Labor.

Not the same ol' Cut taxes for the rich and pray for a trickle down.

Seriously drewed, your enjoying all the benefits and pay of a UNION suported by Obama and other Democrats and you would bite the hand that feeds you.

Work for Fed-Ex, They are NON-UNION. See what there pay and benefits are like.

Talk about bite the hand that feeds you.

Mike you're discrediting the intelligence of this crowd here with this third grade rhetoric.

Republican leadership has always reached out to union members. there is no evil plot by the republicans to eliminate unions and return everyone to substandard wages. Try to mature your argument if you can.

tieguy · 10-04-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mikestrek

HOAXSTER, That kind of sound like the 80 year old guy that says he hates BLACKS. If he hasn't changed by now he never will. Based on your comment, I don't think you'll ever change eather.

Go figure.

cheap unprovoked shot. Mike you really seem to struggle with the political discussions.

paidslave · 10-04-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sendagain

I heard Obama talking about rallying all these young people to do volunteer work in hospitals and other public areas of life. How the heck do unions who want jobs for paid union workers, back a guy who wants to promote young people doing volunteer work in exchange for college tuition credits? Where is the nurses union when your candidate starts talking that way? Or, do you already know he is totally full of it? That "chicken in every pot" angle is nothing new.

What do you thing an internship is?

Hoaxster · 10-04-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikestrek

HOAXSTER, That kind of sound like the 80 year old guy ... edited-too insipid to repeat Go figure.

Mike, you ignorant slut

... I am assuming at this point you did not spend much time studying World or American history.
Unions grew out of the Marxist and Hegelian philosophies, which became to be known as Socialism.
Unions by their very nature are Socialist. I am an ex-Union member and personally support "organized labor" representing an individual or group of individuals against a company.
Hell, I'm looking to the day when the Teamsters get off their dead butts and organize FedEx. Incidentally, if Obama is elected then the chances of this happening will be much greater than if McCain is elected. Win-Win situation for me and UPS.
I am not a Socialist but I respect the right of Unions and Democrats (and Republicans for that matter) to have their Socialistic views...and as for being a bit of a hypocrite, I look forward to drawing Social Security and Social Security as we all know is a Socialist program...as well as Medicare and the Prescription Program passed by Geo W Bush.

over9five · 10-04-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikestrek

HOAXSTER, That kind of sound like the 80 year old guy that says he hates BLACKS. If he hasn't changed by now he never will. Based on your comment, I don't think you'll ever change eather.

Go figure.

Oh yeah, anyone who doesn't want Obama as President must be a racist.

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Originally Posted by mikestrek

I think we all know that had it not been for the Democrat party (I call it the Labor party) we would not have the benifits we have today.

Oh yeah... We have the benifit (sic) of NAFTA, the most anti-union move ever made (Thank you Democratic President Bill Clinton)

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Originally Posted by mikestrek

can you name one thing that the Republican party will or has done for the working class guys and gals like all of us.

Seriously, Name one thing the Conservative Republican party will suport our teamsters union on.

Name one Republican Leader that will support organized labor?

How 'bout EMPLOY you??? How 'bout electing a President who actually employs Union people? How 'bout electing John McCain, who through his family, EMPLOYS Union people?
Nothing like supporting organized labor like EMPLOYING them!

hyena · 10-04-2008, 04:58 PM

I would have to agree with Mike on this. Ive never voted in my life, like other people have mentioned in this thread its gonna be the same bs no matter who is elected. However the way everything is going down right now i registered to vote and my vote is going to Obama. I can respect Obama and some of the choices hes made in life. He wasnt given anything he had to work for it. I respect that. Mccain gets no respect from me what so ever hes all about the money and the big corporations go figure him and Fred Smith are good friends (very anti union man). Theyre all about making the rich richer and I dont understand how my fellow brothers and sisters can want to vote for this man (I do respect your opinion though) I just dont understand. The way I see it Mccain gets elected then theres a few people (the rich) who benifit from it while the masses suffer for it the (poor and the middle class).
Why vote for a man who is rewarding companys for going overseas? Why not support a president who wants to keep jobs in America? Im not democrat or republican I have no label I choose the person who I think will best represent me and my country.

drewed · 10-04-2008, 05:02 PM

Dont worry i turned in mhy union card long ago

But either way my logic isnt flawed vote Obama in get your higher wages he doesnt fix the economy we lose jobs, a whole lot of good that raise did you....

Im the brainwashed one? youre putting the good of the union over the good of the country....thall shouldnt toss rocks when ones in the glass house....

scoobypanda · 10-04-2008, 05:07 PM

I vote for the candidate that I believe can do the best job of leading this country. It really is that simple. There are so many silly, bipartisan notions regarding party affiliations and what they represent. Don't buy into that. There is a perception that the Democrats are weak and can't lead the nation in a time of foreign turmoil. the reality is that during both world wars, vietnam, and korea we had democrats as commander in chief. The other common misconception is that the republicans are the fiscally responsible leaders, yet the great stock market crash of 1929 and black monday in 1987 were both presided over by republican presidents. Jimmy Carter is often derided as some kind of imbecile, but his biography is chock-full of winning policies and brilliant ideas. FDR is revered as the genius behind the New Deal that dragged us from the Great Depression, when in fact most New Deal policies were created by Raymond Moley who was actually a staunch conservative and a vocal Republican.
The point I am making so long windedly is this: ignore politics when making important political decisions. Choose the right candidate and leave the politics to the washington blowhards.

paidslave · 10-04-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by drewed

Dont worry i turned in mhy union card long ago

But either way my logic isnt flawed vote Obama in get your higher wages he doesnt fix the economy we lose jobs, a whole lot of good that raise did you....

Im the brainwashed one? youre putting the good of the union over the good of the country....thall shouldnt toss rocks when ones in the glass house....

I bust my arse for the good of the country what do you do?

10 2 go · 10-04-2008, 05:19 PM

I don't believe Obama is the answer at all. I still am not convinced about the Rev. Wright issue. You can't tell me Obama was not taught by that nut for 20 yrs and some how wasn't there for the comments we all saw on tv. I will not be suprized at all if something else will pop up between now and Nov 4. What about William Ayres. I know if I were serving on a board with him. I would not be any where near him or any board he was on. The main stream media wants him.No way will they dig the way they would for someone they hate. Also Mike this is no place for the race card. Hoax I applaud your comment!!!!McCain/Palin-Middle class is AMERICA. Obama is TAX the middle class..Who would vote for some one who says that.

drewed · 10-04-2008, 05:21 PM

Im not debating work ethics with you, my point is people want to pick a canidate completely based on that its who the union picked. Which is the most idiotic thing ever.
Think for yourself people

hyena · 10-04-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by drewed

Dont worry i turned in mhy union card long ago

But either way my logic isnt flawed vote Obama in get your higher wages he doesnt fix the economy we lose jobs, a whole lot of good that raise did you....

Im the brainwashed one? youre putting the good of the union over the good of the country....thall shouldnt toss rocks when ones in the glass house....

I dont understand Drewed? How is Obama going to ruin the country when its holding on to its last breath now. Hes talking about rewarding companys for staying here in the U.S. Hes also saying hes going to give the middle class a tax break and increase the taxes on the rich.

big_arrow_up · 10-04-2008, 05:36 PM

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I love my Company (UPS) but I also love my UNION (Teamsters) and I have to vote for what will work best for myself and my family.

This is one of the biggest problems plaguing our country. Too many Americans can only think about themselves. It's always "me, me, me." Whatever happened to electing a president that is going to benefit the entire country as a whole instead of electing one that will only satisfy the selfish needs of the individual and his own family. There are millions of other people living in the country.

The Teamsters, who I am not against as a union, are only supporting Obama because of their own selfish agenda. That pretty much sums up most democrats. To say that republicans are anti-labor is absurd and foolish. The government should have little or nothing to do with labor issues anyway. Most republicans (including myself) believe that the national government should have little to do with labor. Or any other aspects of our lives. The national government is supposed to be in place to do what local governments can't and shouldn't do. If anyone is concerned about a presidential candidate's impact (if elected) on labor then a republican is always the better choice simply because of lower taxes allowing businesses (small and large) to maintain and add jobs.

I am a proud Teamster but will not be voting for Obama. My conscious won't allow it. Let the Teamsters worry about handling labor issues. Our president, whoever it may be, has other responsibilities.

hyena · 10-04-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drewed

Im not debating work ethics with you, my point is people want to pick a canidate completely based on that its who the union picked. Which is the most idiotic thing ever.
Think for yourself people

I agree with you here nobody should vote for someone cause someone else told them to. Stand on your own feet and do research know why your voting for the person.

Hoaxster · 10-04-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hyena

I dont understand Drewed? How is Obama going to ruin the country when its holding on to its last breath now. Hes talking about rewarding companys for staying here in the U.S. Hes also saying hes going to give the middle class a tax break and increase the taxes on the rich.

Let's give Drewed a little bit of a break here...I think what he started out saying is that, "Don't vote for Obama because the Union said to. Vote because your logic and your ability to understand what each candidate brings to the table."

After that he went off on a tangent.

Wait a minute, what am I saying???? Don't give drewed a break!

10 2 go · 10-04-2008, 05:45 PM

I always vote the opposite of the Union. It still pisses me off that they spend MILLIONS of our dues on politics. They should ask each member if they want to send money to Washington..I bet our dues would be 30-40 dollars. I really don't care for the unions opinions. I don't push my opinions on people why should they on us.