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11-17-2008, 11:00 AM
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Rep Power: 5665 | Share the Wealth? OK Obama supporters where are you? Why are you not sharing the wealth? From change.org you guys can only raise $35 to help the people of the Pine Ridge Reservation.Out of 62 million people surely you guys can do better than this. http://www.change.org/ipi/projects/v...ge_reservation |
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11-18-2008, 09:56 PM
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11-20-2008, 01:34 AM
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Rep Power: 140 | Re: Share the Wealth? What are you trying to say or prove? At least there's people willing to help out others when in need..People are stranded in a town and you're talking about sharing the wealth? At least somebody is trying, I don't know how Bush gets off the hook on these kind of issues, but whatever...Some of the Obama supporters are a bit broke if you didn't notice the economy, If only the 250,000 k a year income republican supporters could help donate, If only right
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11-20-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by stringerman85 What are you trying to say or prove? At | I am trying to say that out of 60 million supporter that want me to share my wealth they could only raise 35 dollars. This means they are pitiful hypocrites. Obama himself is very wealthy and could share his wealth. Biden is very wealthy himself and could share his wealth. Pelosi is very wealthy herself and could share her wealth. Soros is very wealthy and could share his wealth. Nope what I am trying to say is they are full of hype. They are pitiful beings that do not even talk a good game. I thought it was obvious sorry or I would have spelled it out for you from the beginning. So I'll ask again Obama supporter where are you? You want to spread the wealth well here is a very good opportunity to share your wealth. |
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11-20-2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by av8torntn I am trying to say that out of 60 million supporter that want me to share my wealth they could only raise 35 dollars. This means they are pitiful hypocrites. Obama himself is very wealthy and could share his wealth. Biden is very wealthy himself and could share his wealth. Pelosi is very wealthy herself and could share her wealth. Soros is very wealthy and could share his wealth. Nope what I am trying to say is they are full of hype. They are pitiful beings that do not even talk a good game. I thought it was obvious sorry or I would have spelled it out for you from the beginning. So I'll ask again Obama supporter where are you? You want to spread the wealth well here is a very good opportunity to share your wealth. | AV,
Your post above is a picture perfect example of the difference in a leader and a ruler.
The pages of history are loaded with examples of rulers with leaders still a very rare breed not often seen. If we would ever learn these differences and be willing to live by them, we'd elect people to office that fit the mold and America could become the greatness it was destined for IMO.
Ironically, if we lived by those principles we probably wouldn't need much in the way of elected officials to begin with. Therein lay the true conflict and the need for ignorance in understanding the difference!
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11-20-2008, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by av8torntn I am trying to say that out of 60 million supporter that want me to share my wealth they could only raise 35 dollars. This means they are pitiful hypocrites. Obama himself is very wealthy and could share his wealth. Biden is very wealthy himself and could share his wealth. Pelosi is very wealthy herself and could share her wealth. Soros is very wealthy and could share his wealth. Nope what I am trying to say is they are full of hype. They are pitiful beings that do not even talk a good game. I thought it was obvious sorry or I would have spelled it out for you from the beginning. So I'll ask again Obama supporter where are you? You want to spread the wealth well here is a very good opportunity to share your wealth. | What wealth, We're all broke, Half of us are...Obama and family has shared alot of wealth in the Chicagoland area, Guess you didn't know that? He hasn't branched out as our leader yet until next year so maybe that's why he can't save everyone to this point |
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11-20-2008, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stringerman85 What wealth, We're all broke, Half of us are.. | So out of 62 million voters you are saying half are broke. So if 31 million people would just pick up that penny on the ground and share their new wealth with these poor victims and the other 31 million would just give a small amount like 500 dollars each we would have solved the problems for these poor people. These people voted to have me share my wealth so lead by example. Till then stop telling me that the theft of my money by the government is a good thing. Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Geffen, Madonna, and Soros names should have been at the very top of that list. Surely you guys can raise more than 35 dollars with all the wealth in this 62 million strong group. Or is it that it is only OK to tell other people how much of their wealth to share. I get the feeling you do not like me much telling you how to spend your wealth. |
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11-20-2008, 08:54 PM
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11-21-2008, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by av8torntn So out of 62 million voters you are saying half are broke. So if 31 million people would just pick up that penny on the ground and share their new wealth with these poor victims and the other 31 million would just give a small amount like 500 dollars each we would have solved the problems for these poor people. These people voted to have me share my wealth so lead by example. Till then stop telling me that the theft of my money by the government is a good thing. Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Geffen, Madonna, and Soros names should have been at the very top of that list. Surely you guys can raise more than 35 dollars with all the wealth in this 62 million strong group. Or is it that it is only OK to tell other people how much of their wealth to share. I get the feeling you do not like me much telling you how to spend your wealth. | You again with the word wealth..I'm guessing you make too much money, Oh I'll be nice, I mean I guess you earn alot of money  You're obviously upset about it...I really don't feel like arguing about it, How about be happy you're doing well, Seriously....At this point, The richest people aren't looking so great anyway, Especially the CEO's, Them and their private jets while they're heading towards bankruptcy, And the extra yearly bonuses they don't need (or deserve) like CITI psh give me a break...I'll feel so bad for them when they get taxed more than me next year - Haha yeah right
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11-21-2008, 02:44 AM
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Rep Power: 140 | Re: Share the Wealth? If it actually doesn't apply to you then why worry about it...It's not going to affect you, And it's not like it's a big tax increase anyway. If money is that important to you then you have issues, That's all I'll say |
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11-21-2008, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by stringerman85 If it actually doesn't apply to you then why worry about it... |
It affects us all. Every time you cheer one more loss of freedom it takes away a little piece of "America". Pitiful you guys cannot even do what you expect others to do. Just pitiful. America should be a place where you are allowed to succeed or fail. You and Obama want to punish people for success and reward people for failure, yet you cannot even lead by example. Let's start by placing a tax of $5000 on every Obama supporter and giving that to any charity that I think deserves it. You can get behind that right. My version of spreading the wealth. Let's call it the election wealth tax. Since you think it is OK to take other peoples freedom to spend their money how they see fit I want you and the other Obama supporters to give your freedom to spend your money to me.
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11-21-2008, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by av8torntn It affects us all. Every time you cheer one more loss of freedom it takes away a little piece of "America". Pitiful you guys cannot even do what you expect others to do. Just pitiful. America should be a place where you are allowed to succeed or fail. You and Obama want to punish people for success and reward people for failure, yet you cannot even lead by example. Let's start by placing a tax of $5000 on every Obama supporter and giving that to any charity that I think deserves it. You can get behind that right. My version of spreading the wealth. Let's call it the election wealth tax. Since you think it is OK to take other peoples freedom to spend their money how they see fit I want you and the other Obama supporters to give your freedom to spend your money to me. | Reward people for failure, Middle class included? Is the middle class failures?
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11-21-2008, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by av8torntn OK Obama supporters where are you? Why are you not sharing the wealth? From change.org you guys can only raise $35 to help the people of the Pine Ridge Reservation.Out of 62 million people surely you guys can do better than this. http://www.change.org/ipi/projects/v...ge_reservation | As if this current Gov't gives a rat's ***** about them.
Obama has spoken to these natives. http://tribes.barackobama.com/page/content/firstamshome http://nativevote.org/images/docs/obama.pdf
God forbid South Dakota, a state and it citizens that doesn't get any red-der, lift a finger and provide immediate relief or appeal to the Feds for basic services these decendents of original Americans need to survive.
AV8 I don't quite understand why you spin this around as an Obama supporter's issue. This is a human issue. A moral issue. Even a Christian majority issue. In Christian teachings, aren't we supposed to help those in need or is just about voting for a President and a Judge to overturn Row vs Wade. If your so anti-gov't handout why don't you appeal to the churches?
This is a travesty and an embarrassment to our country from an outsider's point of view looking in.
What's pitiful is a Capitalist that forgets who sets the table, and who provides a level playing field to achieve their success. And since they have more to share, when it come time to be proud to re-invest in their country's people, resources, and Gov't they should be the first ones to step up to the plate. But hey, lets engage in un-neccessary wars around the world, spend and borrow money we don't have, build enormous fences, support outragous healthcare profiteers and allow oil companies to float the boat with historic windfall oil profits at the cost of global warming. "Whats that" Joe the Capitalist said ? The Gov't wants to roll back the tax cuts and raise taxes by 3% to those making over a quarter miliion....Whaa cry me a river.
Sharing wealth? You think I want to share my wealth bombing Iraq, killing innocent people, fullfilling some whack job neo-Con masterplan? You think I want to share my wealth paying extrordinary contracts to the Military Ind Complex? You think I want to share my wealth rebuilding Iraq while they make billions and billions in oil surpluses? Is this Administration doing this for my Freedom ? You think I want to share my wealth forking out Corperate and Wall St welfare providing rich golden parachutes for rich anti-gov't capitalist? This is truly the theft of my money. I rather see it here, rebuilding our own country and providing basic services.
Unregulated Greedy Anti-Gov't Capitalist have been destroying this country, together with Neo-Cons double talk Governing, and by putting them on a pedastal like a Pagan worshipper simply cements my arguement.
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11-21-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel96 As if this current Gov't gives a rat's ***** about them.
Obama has spoken to these natives. http://tribes.barackobama.com/page/content/firstamshome http://nativevote.org/images/docs/obama.pdf
God forbid South Dakota, a state and it citizens that doesn't get any red-der, lift a finger and provide immediate relief or appeal to the Feds for basic services these decendents of original Americans need to survive.
AV8 I don't quite understand why you spin this around as an Obama supporter's issue. This is a human issue. A moral issue. Even a Christian majority issue. In Christian teachings, aren't we supposed to help those in need or is just about voting for a President and a Judge to overturn Row vs Wade. If your so anti-gov't handout why don't you appeal to the churches?
This is a travesty and an embarrassment to our country from an outsider's point of view looking in.
What's pitiful is a Capitalist that forgets who sets the table, and who provides a level playing field to achieve their success. And since they have more to share, when it come time to be proud to re-invest in their country's people, resources, and Gov't they should be the first ones to step up to the plate. But hey, lets engage in un-neccessary wars around the world, spend and borrow money we don't have, build enormous fences, support outragous healthcare profiteers and allow oil companies to float the boat with historic windfall oil profits at the cost of global warming. "Whats that" Joe the Capitalist said ? The Gov't wants to roll back the tax cuts and raise taxes by 3% to those making over a quarter miliion....Whaa cry me a river.
Sharing wealth? You think I want to share my wealth bombing Iraq, killing innocent people, fullfilling some whack job neo-Con masterplan? You think I want to share my wealth paying extrordinary contracts to the Military Ind Complex? You think I want to share my wealth rebuilding Iraq while they make billions and billions in oil surpluses? Is this Administration doing this for my Freedom ? You think I want to share my wealth forking out Corperate and Wall St welfare providing rich golden parachutes for rich anti-gov't capitalist? This is truly the theft of my money. I rather see it here, rebuilding our own country and providing basic services.
Unregulated Greedy Anti-Gov't Capitalist have been destroying this country, together with Neo-Cons double talk Governing, and by putting them on a pedastal like a Pagan worshipper simply cements my arguement. | That's what I mean, People like him need to quit whining and posting threads like this, This is what I was asking when I said "what are you trying to say or prove?", This is a human issue, Exactly what you said diesel |
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11-21-2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by av8torntn OK Obama supporters where are you? Why are you not sharing the wealth? From change.org you guys can only raise $35 to help the people of the Pine Ridge Reservation.Out of 62 million people surely you guys can do better than this. http://www.change.org/ipi/projects/v...ge_reservation | when you're spending 40 K on inaugeration tickets there ain't much left over.
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11-21-2008, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel96 AV8 I don't quite understand why you spin this around as an Obama supporter's issue. If your so anti-gov't handout why don't you appeal to the churches?
. | No spin here diesel. Go to change.org and look it up yourself. This Charity is on his website. Obama and his supporters believe we should spread the wealth around. You have even posted as much. The best you guys can do for this very important cause(in your words) is to raise $35. I say shame on all of you for not spreading your wealth first before you seek to spread the wealth of others. This is one of the most pitiful things you guys have come up with to date. You advocate the expanded government theft of money from those that are successful to those that have failed. At the same time out of 62 million supporters the most you can muster for this great cause of yours is $35. I really thought that once I brought it to light on here at least some of the more radical Obama supporters like yourself could at least double what has been raised. Obama supporters have spoken and only believe in the sharing of other peoples wealth. It is very a very pitiful and sad thing. It is so hard to believe all this talk you have done about sharing other peoples wealth I really thought you would at the very least be prepared to give one dollar to this cause that must be so worthwhile to make the Obama website.
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11-21-2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tieguy when you're spending 40 K on inaugeration tickets there ain't much left over. | They expect 4 million to attend. How about they give at least one thousand each to this charity? |
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11-21-2008, 03:35 PM
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11-21-2008, 09:58 PM
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Rep Power: 4401 | Re: Share the Wealth? Did I hear right today, that O's kids will be going to private school. Because of security issues, ya right. He spreading his wealth around alright. |
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11-21-2008, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Baba gounj Did I hear right today, that O's kids will be going to private school. Because of security issues, ya right. He spreading his wealth around alright. | The Clinton's had Chelsea in public school if I remember right. The Secret Service guards the kids too. I guess those union teachers that voted for OBama don't do a good enough job in his eyes. |
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11-21-2008, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by av8torntn OK Obama supporters where are you? Why are you not sharing the wealth? From change.org you guys can only raise $35 to help the people of the Pine Ridge Reservation.Out of 62 million people surely you guys can do better than this. http://www.change.org/ipi/projects/v...ge_reservation |
The whole world will be perfect now that Obama is in power.How dare defy the power of the throne...Off with your head! |
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11-22-2008, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Gas! The whole world will be perfect now that Obama is in power.How dare defy the power of the throne...Off with your head! | you have a little under two months before your free speech rights will be taken.
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