And again goodbye to yet another corrupt democrat

[tieguy]

The governor of illinois selling barrack Obamas senate seat to the highest bidder? Busted after a three year investigation?

Somehow we are expected to believe Obama escaped corruption filled chicago sqeaky clean?

[Channahon]

It was just a matter of time that Blagojevich got arrested and indicted on his corrupt politics.

As far as Obama, well he's distanced himself from the governor when he started campaigning, although Tony Rezko was a fundraiser for both of them, and Tony owns the property next to Obama's mansion, as part of the real estate deal.

Obama did not invited Blagojevich to his election night celebration, by choice. So, I'm guessing, Obama has some knowledge of the corruption in the state of Illinois.

The Feds did such a nice job, they have a 79 page indictment against the governor, mail and wire fraud, and have been tapping his home phone and did wire tapping to seal the deal.

You wonder how anyone can be so stupid, but in the Pay to Play politics in Illinois, no politcal position is assigned, it's purchased by kickbacks or campaign contributions, so the dishonest politicians can run for office yet again, and stiff the people of the State of Illinois.

Im sitting back and waiting to see what the Feds might come up with Mayor Daly, as he is sometimes referred to having - Fedsheimer disease when the Feds get too close for comfort. Seems he can't recall any incident when asked.

The federal prisons system might have a wing for all the corrupt Illinois politicians twho are greedy and have no interest in the public, just them, their cronies and families.

Wouldn't be surprised if Mrs Patti Blogjevich was next!!

[diesel96]

Originally Posted by tieguy

The governor of illinois selling barrack Obamas senate seat to the highest bidder? Busted after a three year investigation?

Somehow we are expected to believe Obama escaped corruption filled chicago sqeaky clean?

<------Tieguy "I can't wait for tonight to see how Hannity is going to tie Barack Obama with the Illnios Governer"

[over9five]

Originally Posted by diesel96

<------Tieguy "I can't wait for tonight to see how Hannity is going to tie Barack Obama with the Illnios Governer"

I don't see anybody disputing the post subject, just using Liberal Response #3......

[Baba gounj]

This all could have been avoided if the gov had just listed the open senate seat on e-bay.

[Channahon]

Governor Blagojevich: In His Own Words

Caution - Rod Blagojevich has some issues using proper language. To get the point across how arrogant and egotistical he is, I **** out the true spelling of the words he used. I'm surprised the words were in the article.

In October, federal investigators obtained permission to tap Gov. Rod Blagojevich's home phone and phones at his campaign office.

Efforts to obtain personal benefits in return for U.S. Senate appointment:

Blagojevich considered taking the job himself: "If ... they're not going to offer anything of any value, then I might just take it."

Later he says: "Unless I get something real good for [Senate Candidate 1], *****, I'll just send myself, you know what I'm saying. I'm going to keep this Senate option for me a real possibility, you know, and therefore I can drive a hard bargain. You hear what I'm saying.

"And if I don't get what I want and I'm not satisfied with it, then I'll just take the Senate seat myself. [The Senate seat] "is a f*****g valuable thing, you just don't give it away for nothing."

In a separate conversation, Blagojevich says: "I've got this thing and it's f*****g golden, and, uh, uh, I'm just not giving it up for f****n' nothing. I'm not gonna do it. And, and I can always use it. I can parachute me there."

Blagojevich also asked what he can get from President-elect Obama
for the Senate seat: "Can [the President-elect] help in the private sector. . . where it wouldn't be tied to him? . . .I mean, so it wouldn't necessarily look like one for the other."

Blagojevich said that consultants (believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to "suck it up" for two years and do nothing and give this "motherf****er [the President-elect] his
senator. ****** him. For nothing? ****** him."

[705red]

I am not a fan of Rod's at all and will not vote for him again as he has turned his back on alot of supporters who helped him get here. Any dem would have won after what the republican gov did to this state and was convicted of (George Ryan).

But in all fairness hes been under investigation for some time and publicly everyone knew. However they accuse him of selling obama's seat which ha only been up for grabs for the last month. Either he is really stupid! Or its a witch hunt only time will tell.

[Baba gounj]

This guy is not going away, he plans to use everything he can to leverage a deal in his favor.
.................................................. ...............................................
After 01-20-08 , just which federal lawyers do you think the O will can ?
Remember the uproar that the dems cause when Bush let a few hold overs from Clinton go ( in his second term ). Do you think O will can the federal atty that is charging the Ill governor ?

[Baba gounj]

We can all thank Dick Durbin, who has throw Gov Rod under the bus first.
No need to wait for due process, he calls for a special election to fill the empty seat.

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by Baba gounj

We can all thank Dick Durbin, who has throw Gov Rod under the bus first.
No need to wait for due process, he calls for a special election to fill the empty seat.

Yeah, democrats when this news broke heard this far away echoie voice of Obie Wan saying:

RUN LUKE RUN!

as in as far from this guy as they can get. It would seem on the surface that Obama from the info is clear on this because Obama suggested a possible candidate and when the good Gov. came back with his counter offer, Obama's people said no thanks. Now they should have turned his (!) in right then and maybe through some backdoor they did but I'm sure that subject will be debated till the cows come home.


Either way, Obama will have to wear the stigmata of Chicago style politics and I heard this morning that Illinois has had 4 governors go to jail in the last century (actually less than that) so you people up in Illinois need to take a long look in the mirror because this really begins to question you more than the people you elect to office IMO.

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by 705red

I am not a fan of Rod's at all and will not vote for him again as he has turned his back on alot of supporters who helped him get here. Any dem would have won after what the republican gov did to this state and was convicted of (George Ryan).

But in all fairness hes been under investigation for some time and publicly everyone knew. However they accuse him of selling obama's seat which ha only been up for grabs for the last month. Either he is really stupid! Or its a witch hunt only time will tell.

Red,

No argument the feds have a long history of witch hunts but unless some trickery is shown in the transcripts, your Gov's own words IMO more than convict him. Sounds like both political parties are corrupt up your way so you guys need to seriously look at 3rd or independent candidates. Might start shaking the tree of bad fruit and even have the positive effect of doing the rest of the country some good too. Lots of bad apples everywhere!

WOW, just saw this and thought I'd just add it in here. Not good, not good at all!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20081210/pl_bloomberg/a5hfmtfqlk9s

[moreluck]

It's really scary to think that B.O. comes from the Illinois political system......so like that was his training ground for politics. Corruption galore. Scary stuff !!

[moreluck]

Subject: New Stamp


The Postal Service has issued a new Obama stamp commemorating corruption
in Chicago- it costs $.43 but you'll never make it stick.

[Channahon]

Jesse Jackson Jr. Is 'Senate Candidate 5'

Congressman Releases Statement Denouncing Pay-To-Play Politics

Reporting
Mike Flannery
CHICAGO (CBS) ― Federal investigators have asked Chicago Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. to come in to discuss what he knows about Gov. Rod Blagojevich's allegedly scandalous handling of the U.S. Senate vacancy.

CBS 2 News has learned that Jackson Jr. is the person identified in federal documents as "Senate Candidate #5," who allegedly discussed giving the governor $500,000 up front prior to appointment, then raising another $1 million afterwards.

Jackson Jr. issued a written statement Wednesday morning: "Since the federal investigation of the Governor is ongoing, it would be inappropriate for me to comment beyond my initial statement. However, I reject and denounce pay-to-play politics and have no involvement whatsoever in any wrongdoing. I won't hesitate to cooperate fully and completely with the federal government's investigation."

The Illinois general assembly reconvenes next Monday in an emergency session to begin action on legislation that would require a special election to fill President-elect Barack Obama's now-vacant U.S. senate seat, stripping the governor of his sole power to appoint a replacement.

Congressman Mark Kirk said Wednesday morning that he believes "Senate Candidate #5" could face criminal charges if he or she played an active role in the conspiracy to buy and sell a senate seat.

[over9five]

I don't think Obama is dirty in this EXCEPT that we'd all be fools if we thought he had no knowledge of any of this.
And as a man of "reform" and "change", why did he turn a blind eye to it? Why didn't he turn his cronies in? This looks bad for him, happening in his own back yard. How can we expect him to run the country when he (allegedly) doesn't know what goes on in his own city?

[scratch]

Does Blagojevich wear a rug? Whats up with the hair, it doesn't look real.

[Channahon]

Originally Posted by scratch

Does Blagojevich wear a rug? Whats up with the hair, it doesn't look real.

Not sure, but if it is, whoever made it for him, probably got a state job!!

[browndevil]

Originally Posted by scratch

Does Blagojevich wear a rug? Whats up with the hair, it doesn't look real.

When I saw his picture in the paper I thought he was Janet Reno

[Baba gounj]

Originally Posted by wkmac

Either way, Obama will have to wear the stigmata of Chicago style politics and I heard this morning that Illinois has had 4 governors go to jail in the last century (actually less than that) so you people up in Illinois need to take a long look in the mirror because this really begins to question you more than the people you elect to office IMO.

The way I heard it the tally is 79 pols. sent to jail since 1971

[Bad Gas!]

It's bad when politicians abuse their power.It happens on both sides of the isles.The voters are the losers for trusting their canidates.

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by Baba gounj

The way I heard it the tally is 79 pols. sent to jail since 1971

Yeah I actually heard more detail and in the last 7 Illinois governors, 4 have taken up residence at some of our fine corrections facilities. Also it's been both democrat and republican so at least in Illinois, they do believe in bi-partisanship!

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by over9five

I don't think Obama is dirty in this EXCEPT that we'd all be fools if we thought he had no knowledge of any of this.
And as a man of "reform" and "change", why did he turn a blind eye to it? Why didn't he turn his cronies in? This looks bad for him, happening in his own back yard. How can we expect him to run the country when he (allegedly) doesn't know what goes on in his own city?

This scandel has far reaching possibilities especially when looking at the length of time taken when conducting the investigation. The possibility exists that there may be more crooks that turn up especially if someone turns states evidence to save their own soul. Thus I continue to find it interesting that Obama could have worked in such an environment and come out unscathed.

[tieguy]

Think about this as the details come out in this scandel. The governor was willing to sell Obamas seat to the highest bidder. How does he market the sale. How does he get the word out to get the maximum number of bidders to participate? Could be a lot of hands in this pot.

[moreluck]

I think plenty of "birds" will be singing soon.....

• DECEMBER 12, 2008

Rezko Emerges With Central Role in Case


By CHRISTOPHER COOPER and JOHN R. EMSHWILLER

The pay-to-play case against Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich puts another Chicago political figure back in the spotlight: developer Antoin Rezko, a onetime fund-raiser for Barack Obama who was convicted in June of influence peddling.
Mr. Rezko appears to be playing a key role in the case against Mr. Blagojevich, which, coupled with an unrelated, recently filed lawsuit in that state, could give Obama critics grist for their attempts to tie him to corrupt Chicago politics.
Associated Press Antoin Rezko is back in the spotlight.



Earlier this year, Mr. Rezko wrote a letter to the judge in his own criminal case in which he complained that federal prosecutors in the office of U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald "are pressuring me to tell them the 'wrong' things I supposedly know about Governor Blagojevich and Senator Obama." Mr. Rezko added that he had never been involved in wrongdoing with either man. Mr. Obama has never been tied to any of the developer's alleged crimes.
A Rezko criminal attorney declined to comment, as did a spokesman for Mr. Fitzgerald's office. Obama aides declined to comment about his ties to the governor or Mr. Rezko.
Mr. Rezko this week seems to have changed his mind about Mr. Blagojevich, who was accused by Mr. Fitzgerald of attempting to auction off Mr. Obama's vacant U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, among other misdeeds. In a 76-page affidavit supporting the arrest of Mr. Blagojevich, a Federal Bureau of Investigation agent called Mr. Rezko a "principal fundraiser" for Mr. Blagojevich and said the convicted developer is cooperating in the case against the Democratic governor.
"Rezko has proffered [information] with the government in hopes of receiving a recommendation from the government for a reduced sentence," the affidavit says. On Thursday, the federal judge in Mr. Rezko's case abruptly suspended his sentencing proceedings. People familiar with the case said this was a clear signal that Mr. Rezko's cooperation was moving forward. Because cooperating witnesses use their testimony to get lighter sentences, judges delay giving them prison terms until their assistance to prosecutors has been completed.
Documents in the Case

• Order by U.S. District Court Judge Amy St. Eve suspending the looming deadlines for both sides in the case.
• Letter from Mr. Rezko's lawyer to U.S. District Court Judge Amy St. Eve on Nov. 26 on delaying sentencing
• Wash Wire: Rezko's Sentencing Is Delayed

Mr. Obama's other connection to Mr. Rezko revolves around a patch of land adjacent to Mr. Obama's Chicago home that he bought in early 2006 from the disgraced developer's wife for about $100,000. Mr. Obama has since called the deal "boneheaded" on his part. Obama representatives have said that the purchase of the adjacent properties by the Obamas and Ms. Rezko weren't related.
In October, a lawsuit was filed in Illinois state court by Kenneth Conner, a former employee of an Illinois bank called Mutual Bank. His suit says he was fired after raising questions in connection with a $500,000 loan that largely financed Ms. Rezko's purchase of the vacant lot, a portion of which she later sold to the Obamas.
The suit includes an internal bank email from October 2006 discussing the receipt of a federal grand jury subpoena seeking information about the Rezko lot loan. The suit alleges important information was removed from the loan file before it was turned over to authorities. There is no evidence Mr. Fitzgerald has been looking specifically at the Obama-Rezko transaction.
Mutual Bank officials didn't respond to calls.
—Cam Simpson contributed to this article.

[upsdude]

Just a question. If Da Bears make the playoffs, will the Gov try and sell their spot?