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Originally Posted by over9five And yet now we have a (former) cocaine snorter/pothead who has those launch codes.
As a public servant with a history of drug abuse, can't we at least give him random drug tests? Like firemen and police officers get? | Quote:
Originally Posted by over9five I know. It just REALLY irritates me that I (with NO drug history), just a truck driver, HAS to be randomly drug tested.
But an admitted drug abuser, who's finger is on the nuclear trigger, does not.
Not just the current President. I think ANY President (whether an admitted cocaine snorter/pothead like Obama, or not) should be randomly drug tested.
It's insane we test police officers, firefighters, EMTs, truck drivers, etc....
...but not the man who could launch a thousand nukes. | Guess you rather not have a president who is truthful and upfront with his past drug use, and perfer the last 2 POTUS's who were very vague, didn't inhale and tried to skirt around the issues. Quote:
Originally Posted by tieguy same guy who thinks he can balance the budget and throw money around in the trillions. drug testing may not be a bad idea. | Are you refering to Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, or Obama ? Quote:
Originally Posted by JimJimmyJames Reminds me of what they did to Dan Quayle. When the media wants to make a joke of you, it is hard to come back from that.. | And the Howard Dean Scream...... |
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Originally Posted by diesel96 Guess you rather not have a president who is truthful and upfront with his past drug use, and perfer the last 2 POTUS's who were very vague, didn't inhale and tried to skirt around the issues. | C'mon Diesel, I said not just the current President, but ANY President should be drug tested. There's too much at stake NOT to do random drug tests on Presidents.
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Originally Posted by diesel96 Are you refering to Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, or Obama ?
. | definitely Obama the other three are fiscal conservatives in comparison.
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Guess you rather not have a president who is truthful and upfront with his past drug use, and prefer the last 2 POTUS's who were very vague, didn't inhale and tried to skirt around the issues.
| Oh, You mean kinda like the way the new pres. skirted around the whole real birth certificate issue?
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Originally Posted by over9five Story Well there's a surprise move! | She is trying to upstage Micheal Jackson!
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Originally Posted by UPS Lifer She is trying to upstage Micheal Jackson!  | When I first posted this I thought, "This will take the focus off Mark Sanford"!
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Originally Posted by moreluck I like Arnold.....at least he realizes you have to cut programs, not spend more, to reduce a deficit. | Arnold has never been the problem.... It has been the democratic legislature and the powerful state employee unions as well as firemen-police-teacher unions.
These unions have thrown millions upon millions to lobby against the governator and his support of reducing costs through bills and propositions!!!
I don't think that the governor needs to be tested for drugs as much as the legislatures of these states!
You want to clean house? This is the way to do it!
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Originally Posted by over9five When I first posted this I thought, "This will take the focus off Mark Sanford"! | I think that Sarah has always put family before anything else. If she had hindsight, she would not have agreed to run on the McCain ticket.
She is a mother and a wife first and everything else is secondary. She is doing what any good husband or wife would do for their family. How can any person not respect her for her commitment to her family?
Don't count her out in the future. She has a LOYAL following who will stand by her through thick and thin. She is the Martha Stewart of politics!
Nixon came back after losing the Presidency in 1960 and then the governorship for CA. EVERYONE thought he was politically dead. He even came back as an elder statesman after his exit from the presidency.
She may be a force to be reckoned with in 2016 or 2020. I don't think 2012 is her immediate goal.
You may see her run for a national office in Congress as her next step. But only after she capitalizes on her celebrity and takes care of her family.
She is a lot smarter than most people give her credit for and this will play to her advantage in all future endeavors. 
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Obama quit his Senator job.
As did Hillary.
Rahm Emanuel quit his Congressman job.
Where was the liberal press whenever a Democrat quit their job????
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Originally Posted by over9five And yet:
Obama quit his Senator job.
As did Hillary.
Rahm Emanuel quit his Congressman job.
Where was the liberal press whenever a Democrat quit their job???? | That would mean the liberal press would have to remove their double standard when it comes to Palin. They work too hard to spin every political move Palin makes as bad while doing the opposite for liberal democrats.
I agree with UPSlifer, in the next 4-12 years she will be a major player on the national scene. Possibly even a future POTUS. |
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Originally Posted by over9five And yet:
Obama quit his Senator job.
As did Hillary.
Rahm Emanuel quit his Congressman job. Where was the liberal press whenever a Democrat quit their job???? | I think you're confusing a lone cartoonist with "the liberal press" plenty of people on both the right and left. Karl Rove was certainly less than impressed, though I think Bill Kristol stuck up for her.
The democrats you mentioned all quit their previous jobs to move up. John McCain was prepared to do the same thing, and noone batted an eye when Palin was quitting her job in order to take a shot at the VP spot. Democrats and republicans do it all the time in politics and it's no big deal.
It's not quitting her job that's the issue, it's quitting in the middle of her first term for no discernible reason other than that she apparently just didn't feel like doing it anymore.
As far as her making a run in 2012, I think that would be a donkey's dream come true. The base may love her but on the national scene she's a train wreck. The best thing she can do for the GOP is ride off into the sunset, maybe get a job with FOX as a political analyst. I'm sure she could draw a pretty nice check, and she might learn something from hanging out with Rove.
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Originally Posted by Jones Karl Rove was certainly less than impressed, though I think Bill Kristol stuck up for her. | Fox News Sunday Show, June 29th 2008' Bill Kristol announces McCain's VP will be Sarah Palin. Seen here in this BC post last August.
I had no idea Bill Kristol's night job was working for the phychic friends network!
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Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 7, 2009 08:04 AM
Last night I caught an interesting moment on the Keith Olbermann show: they were alarmed at the continuing breakup of the Republican party. Don’t cheer it, they warned. This is a moment that could bring forth a new independent party that could wreak havoc (i.e., hurt Obama) in the 2012 elections. Palin? asked Keith in a shaky voice. No, something far worse, someone from outside the political system, a “demagogue” combining Ross Perot’s attacks on federal spending and deficits and “Pat Buchanan’s nativism,” who would rally angry people against the regime.
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" rally angry people against the REGIME." REGIME? He said "REGIME?"
Now why would people be angry if current REGIME policy is good and the level of people's suffering is drastically reducing?
Interesting what they really fear!
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Originally Posted by Jones I think you're confusing a lone cartoonist with "the liberal press" plenty of people on both the right and left. Karl Rove was certainly less than impressed, though I think Bill Kristol stuck up for her.
The democrats you mentioned all quit their previous jobs to move up. John McCain was prepared to do the same thing, and noone batted an eye when Palin was quitting her job in order to take a shot at the VP spot. Democrats and republicans do it all the time in politics and it's no big deal.
It's not quitting her job that's the issue, it's quitting in the middle of her first term for no discernible reason other than that she apparently just didn't feel like doing it anymore.
As far as her making a run in 2012, I think that would be a donkey's dream come true. The base may love her but on the national scene she's a train wreck. The best thing she can do for the GOP is ride off into the sunset, maybe get a job with FOX as a political analyst. I'm sure she could draw a pretty nice check, and she might learn something from hanging out with Rove. | Perhaps you are not aware of this, but she is most likely resigning in order to move up in the political arena. Moving up to where and how high is the question.
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Originally Posted by brett636 Perhaps you are not aware of this, but she is most likely resigning in order to move up in the political arena. Moving up to where and how high is the question.
Palin 2012! | And you're not aware of it either. I am aware of speculation to that effect, but I seriously doubt it. I wouldn't discount her throwing her hat in the ring, but bailing out on the governorship 3 years before the election doesn't look that good on the resume. Like I said, the democrats would love to see it, so at least it would make them happy. If she actually got the nomination (she won't, you heard it here first) it would be the equivalent of the GOP putting a gun to it's own head. Bozo the Clown would beat her in the general election. If the economy stays in the tank the GOP's best bet is probably someone like Romney, a smart guy/gal with a successful business background who can offer an alternative to the by then failed solutions of the democrats. If the economy rebounds, or at least looks like it's headed in the right direction, they've got a real problem because that means Obama will likely continue to have the kind of high personal approval ratings that make an incumbent almost impossible to beat.
Whatever the case, they should have an excellent shot at winning back one or both houses of congress because congressional approval ratings are always bad, regardless of whose in command.
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Originally Posted by wkmac Fox News Sunday Show, June 29th 2008' Bill Kristol announces McCain's VP will be Sarah Palin. Seen here in this BC post last August.
I had no idea Bill Kristol's night job was working for the phychic friends network!  | Ya know, I had a broken watch once....
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Originally Posted by Jones And you're not aware of it either. I am aware of speculation to that effect, but I seriously doubt it. I wouldn't discount her throwing her hat in the ring, but bailing out on the governorship 3 years before the election doesn't look that good on the resume. Like I said, the democrats would love to see it, so at least it would make them happy. If she actually got the nomination (she won't, you heard it here first) it would be the equivalent of the GOP putting a gun to it's own head. Bozo the Clown would beat her in the general election. If the economy stays in the tank the GOP's best bet is probably someone like Romney, a smart guy/gal with a successful business background who can offer an alternative to the by then failed solutions of the democrats. If the economy rebounds, or at least looks like it's headed in the right direction, they've got a real problem because that means Obama will likely continue to have the kind of high personal approval ratings that make an incumbent almost impossible to beat.
Whatever the case, they should have an excellent shot at winning back one or both houses of congress because congressional approval ratings are always bad, regardless of whose in command. | If you listened to her speeches and correspondence since the decision was announced you cannot deny that she has every intention of moving onto bigger and better things. Just how big is the question. She may not get the presidential nomination in 2012 if she decides to run for Senate instead. Maybe she intends on running for President in 2016. We won't know till then. We can only speculate. Palin has a bigger following then you are obviously aware of. In a recent speech she gave in upstate New York a crowd of 20,000 showed up from a town of just 26,000. Joe Biden can't even draw an audience of that size. When she runs her national campaign you will see she is a very shrewd politician who has a very good chance at the highest office in the land. Just sit and wait, you will see. |
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Originally Posted by brett636 If you listened to her speeches and correspondence since the decision was announced you cannot deny that she has every intention of moving onto bigger and better things. Just how big is the question. She may not get the presidential nomination in 2012 if she decides to run for Senate instead. Maybe she intends on running for President in 2016. We won't know till then. We can only speculate. Palin has a bigger following then you are obviously aware of. In a recent speech she gave in upstate New York a crowd of 20,000 showed up from a town of just 26,000. Joe Biden can't even draw an audience of that size. When she runs her national campaign you will see she is a very shrewd politician who has a very good chance at the highest office in the land. Just sit and wait, you will see. | She has a fanatical following, I'll grant you that. But so did Howard Dean. Dean had his scream, Palin had Katie Couric, and neither one of them will ever be president. There's not a whole lot else to do in Auburn, NY, so the crowd really isn't that surprising. Those people probably all voted for her in November and clearly it wasn't enough. National elections aren't won in places like Auburn. If she can pull the same percantage of the population in New York, Chicago, or L.A., you might have something. Comparing her to Biden is a non-starter, there's a reason he never got the nomination and she won't be running against him anyway. Sure, anything could happen I guess, maybe I'll be surprised. But I've been watching this dog and pony show for almost 45 years now, and I don't get surprised much anymore. Quote:
Originally Posted by brett636 McCain hit a real home run with his pick. Unlike Biden, Palin is not a longtime Washington insider, and unlike both Obama and Biden she has executive experience as Governor of Alaska. She pay even pull a few hillary supporters over to McCain. Excellent choice for VP, this is a ticket that will ensure a President elect McCain in Nov. | Ahh, the memories
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Originally Posted by Jones She has a fanatical following, I'll grant you that. But so did Howard Dean. Dean had his scream, Palin had Katie Couric, and neither one of them will ever be president. There's not a whole lot else to do in Auburn, NY, so the crowd really isn't that surprising. Those people probably all voted for her in November and clearly it wasn't enough. National elections aren't won in places like Auburn. If she can pull the same percantage of the population in New York, Chicago, or L.A., you might have something. Comparing her to Biden is a non-starter, there's a reason he never got the nomination and she won't be running against him anyway. Sure, anything could happen I guess, maybe I'll be surprised. But I've been watching this dog and pony show for almost 45 years now, and I don't get surprised much anymore. | Considering our current President and Congress are doing everything in their power to keep this economy in its current state through the next Presidential election I do not see how people in those places you mentioned won't be ready for a President Palin. I could live with a President Romney, but I don't like his track record on gun rights. Anyways, I digress. Its tough to decipher what the political climate will be like in 2012. For the sake of this country it better be the exact opposite of where it is today. Quote:
Ahh, the memories | Thats what I get for assuming McCain could run that well of a campaign post Palin announcement. Unfortunately his campaign became as impotent as the old man himself. |
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Rep Power: 14538 | Re: Palin Quits as Alaskan Governor Hey Jones... All I can say is you got to be kidding about Biden. He is the biggest joke the demos have had since the peanut farmer!
Biden is no asset to BO unless you minus the "et". If BO could get rid of him right now he would in a heart beat. He wears edible shoes so that he does not choke on them every time he puts his feet in his mouth! LOL!
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Originally Posted by UPS Lifer Hey Jones... All I can say is you got to be kidding about Biden. He is the biggest joke the demos have had since the peanut farmer!
Biden is no asset to BO unless you minus the "et". If BO could get rid of him right now he would in a heart beat. He wears edible shoes so that he does not choke on them every time he puts his feet in his mouth! LOL! | Hmmm, not sure what you are referencing. I basically said that Biden was a lousy presidential candidate and therefore comparing him to Palin was of little consequence.
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Originally Posted by brett636 Considering our current President and Congress are doing everything in their power to keep this economy in its current state through the next Presidential election I do not see how people in those places you mentioned won't be ready for a President Palin. I could live with a President Romney, but I don't like his track record on gun rights. Anyways, I digress. Its tough to decipher what the political climate will be like in 2012. For the sake of this country it better be the exact opposite of where it is today. | I think a lot of people could live with a president Romney, a lot more than could live with a president Palin. But you're right, this is all just idle speculation right now. We'll find out soon enough.
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