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The Other Side · 07-26-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Baba gounj

OTS; I read the police report, in which the sgt stated that he told Gates who he was, but since Gates was screaming at him or talking loudly on the phone he must not of heard the sgt's responses. Which by the way the sgt also stated these facts on a local tv broadcast. So there are several sources of the sgt's actions available , printed and audio.
I'm still waiting for the audio police tapes to be released, should be a top ten seller. Especially since Gates plans to do a documentary film about this.
Kind of funny that Gates would already have plans about this minor event in development. Since the lawsuits and counter lawsuits have not even be filed yet.

I suggest that you and diesel96 contact Gates soon before all the good parts in his movie are filled.

BABAGANOUSH,

"telling someone" your a cop and proving it are TWO different things.

This SGT REFUSED to show his IDENTIFICATION, plain and simple, this has been corraborated by the other officer at scene. "Telling" the professor with a gun in his hand and without a BADGE in plain sight would anger anyone.

The whole "break in" angle could be a hoax "cooked" up by this SGT.

Someone on this site "show me the money" and provide the actual telephone call or reporting person who made this call?

Tell ya what, save your time, it doesnt exist. This was ( in my opinion) just a roust of a black man in an affluent neighborhood by an over zealous white officer who made a terrible mistake.

A pissing contest is just that, a pissing contest. The bigger man should have been the SGT, by simply complying with the "homeowner" and identifying himself and calming things down, versus turning his back and trying to walk out after threatening the professor with a gun.

Every man is a king of his castle, and once that is established, game over, police or not, this SGT had no right to continue with the hard line attitude.

I could care less who he gave mouth to mouth to, it has nothing to do with this lack of judgement.

SGT redneck acted like a redneck. He didnt believe he "owed" the professor an apology at the scene for anything. This is how people expect black people to be treated even in todays world.

FAUX news has provided some peripheral info but NOT THE WHOLE STORY.

Reason, so brown cafe right wing kooks can run with the ball....

Unfortunately, the truth prevails and this story will die a quiet death.

Keep banging the drums FAUX FANS, you still are demonstrating why you lost the highest office in the land.

Answer: McCain / Palin another case of acting:

STUPIDLY

bubsdad · 07-26-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Side

BABAGANOUSH,

"telling someone" your a cop and proving it are TWO different things.

This SGT REFUSED to show his IDENTIFICATION, plain and simple, this has been corraborated by the other officer at scene. "Telling" the professor with a gun in his hand and without a BADGE in plain sight would anger anyone.

The whole "break in" angle could be a hoax "cooked" up by this SGT.

Someone on this site "show me the money" and provide the actual telephone call or reporting person who made this call?

Tell ya what, save your time, it doesnt exist. This was ( in my opinion) just a roust of a black man in an affluent neighborhood by an over zealous white officer who made a terrible mistake.

A pissing contest is just that, a pissing contest. The bigger man should have been the SGT, by simply complying with the "homeowner" and identifying himself and calming things down, versus turning his back and trying to walk out after threatening the professor with a gun.

Every man is a king of his castle, and once that is established, game over, police or not, this SGT had no right to continue with the hard line attitude.

I could care less who he gave mouth to mouth to, it has nothing to do with this lack of judgement.

SGT redneck acted like a redneck. He didnt believe he "owed" the professor an apology at the scene for anything. This is how people expect black people to be treated even in todays world.

FAUX news has provided some peripheral info but NOT THE WHOLE STORY.

Reason, so brown cafe right wing kooks can run with the ball....

Unfortunately, the truth prevails and this story will die a quiet death.

Keep banging the drums FAUX FANS, you still are demonstrating why you lost the highest office in the land.

Answer: McCain / Palin another case of acting:

STUPIDLY

Well, I guess that settles that, since you were obviously there and know what took place. How could we all dare to comment when all we had to go on was news reports and eyewitness statements?

stevetheupsguy · 07-26-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Side

The whole "break in" angle could be a hoax "cooked" up by this SGT.

This was ( in my opinion) just a roust of a black man in an affluent neighborhood by an over zealous white officer who made a terrible mistake.

True, it could be a hoax and you are entitled to your opinion. This being said, none of us were there to prove/disprove what happened. Any of us could make any story up about this case just to stir up someone with a differing view point. Why get all worked up over nothing? JMHO, as always.

The Other Side · 07-26-2009, 05:31 PM

How about just going on with your lives and not following the lead of the worst news agency on the planet?

The whole current events threads are nothing more those who favor the right wing nonsense aired on FAUX and repeated here as facts..

Reading thru the posts on this particular thread, the sgt is obviously innocent and the black man obviously guilty of something.

This is what right wing propaganda does on FAUX news.

Why hasnt FOX extended an offer to the professor to come on the air and tell "his" side of the story?? HMMM?

Thats right, cause it wont fit the distortion they sold you already.

Get over this case already, it was not worth your efforts.

big_arrow_up · 07-26-2009, 06:25 PM

The important lesson of all this is this......those of the liberal persuasion always seem to come in on the side of those that claim to be the victim. So, if you eve find yourself in one of these situations make sure you beat the other person to the punch and claim to be the victim so that you can gain the full and unconditional support of the liberals in this country. That is, of course.....unless you are white.

Baba gounj · 07-27-2009, 07:07 AM

OTS;

Please read my post #43 on Re: Sticking his nose........

More from that article;
The Arrival .......
Gates........(When Crowley arrived ) I said "Officer,can I help you?"
Crowley responded, "Would you step outside onto the porch"...and I said out of instinct, "NO, I will not".
Crowley........He demanded to know who I was. I told him I was Sgt Crowley from the Cambridge police and I was investigating a report of a break-in at the residence. While I was making this statement, Gates opened the front door and exclaimed, "why, because I'm a black man in America?" I then asked Gates, if there was anyone else in the residence. While yelling, he told me that it was none of my business and accused me of being a racist police officer....Gates then turned to me and told me that I had " no idea who I was messing with " and that I had not heard the last of it.

Baba gounj · 07-27-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Other Side

BABAGANOUSH,

"telling someone" your a cop and proving it are TWO different things.
so explain why gates is quoted as say "Officer ,can I help you ?"

This SGT REFUSED to show his IDENTIFICATION, plain and simple, this has been corraborated by the other officer at scene. "Telling" the professor with a gun in his hand and without a BADGE in plain sight would anger anyone.
According to Crowley, Gates could not hear his response due to all the yelling he was doing
The whole "break in" angle could be a hoax "cooked" up by this SGT.
He was responding to a police radio call, did he manufacture that, too ?
Someone on this site "show me the money" and provide the actual telephone call or reporting person who made this call?
Her name is Lucia Whalen, her office is on the same street, and she had been aware of other break-ins in the area.
Tell ya what, save your time, it doesnt exist. This was ( in my opinion) just a roust of a black man in an affluent neighborhood by an over zealous white officer who made a terrible mistake.
You better research Cambridge, Mass. This is the most liberal city on the East coast. These people pride themselves on displaying bumper stickers for Kerry/Edwards,Impeach Bush, Gay rights,O, Free Tibet,and any and every liberal cause. The local joke in these parts is to call the City Of Cambridge, the Peoples Republic of Cambridge.
A pissing contest is just that, a pissing contest. The bigger man should have been the SGT, by simply complying with the "homeowner" and identifying himself and calming things down, versus turning his back and trying to walk out after threatening the professor with a gun.
I have not seen any reports from either side that report that a gun had been drawn.

Every man is a king of his castle, and once that is established, game over, police or not, this SGT had no right to continue with the hard line attitude.
According to all reports as the sgt was leaving Gates followed him out, still yelling. Enough so that people passing by stopped to watch.
I could care less who he gave mouth to mouth to, it has nothing to do with this lack of judgement.
From all reports it was Gates who had the lack of judgment.
His yelling is what lead to the arrest,and was justified in order to defuse the situation. But if you want to believe Gates' version " I have a severe bronchial infection. So I couldn't have yelled." be my guest . Let's see your response after the police tapes are made public.
SGT redneck acted like a redneck. He didnt believe he "owed" the professor an apology at the scene for anything. This is how people expect black people to be treated even in todays world.
Talk about quite a racist remark.

FAUX news has provided some peripheral info but NOT THE WHOLE STORY.
That why I'm getting my facts from local papers and friends in Cambridge.
Reason, so brown cafe right wing kooks can run with the ball....
And liberals can get on their high horses and declare that they are too smart to be caught up in this nonsense.
Unfortunately, the truth prevails and this story will die a quiet death.
With egg all over Gates' face.
Keep banging the drums FAUX FANS, you still are demonstrating why you lost the highest office in the land.

Answer: McCain / Palin another case of acting:

STUPIDLY

The Other Side · 07-27-2009, 07:52 AM

Ok, like I said, the initial reports that FAUX news ran with and you all repeated here on this thread are FALSE. The woman who made the "call" to the police is saying today thru her attorney that she NEVER TOLD THE POLICE THERE WERE TWO BLACK MEN BREAKING INTO THE HOME.

Even though this is in SGT CROWLEYS report that this was the radio call he responded to and what he told professor Gates.

Now, who is the liar?

The police department has reviewed the 911 tapes and confirm what the caller is saying. The tapes are to be released soon.

The call, as stated by the caller merely said she saw 2 men (without race mentioned) looking like they were trying to force open a door.

It was Crowley who added that they were black.

OOPS... looks like FAUX gets caught up running with misinformation again and spreading it on the air to you loyal listeners.

SGT crowleys report clearly states that he was told there were 2 black men breaking into the home and this is NOT TRUE.

You all better cool your jets on this one until all the facts surface.

You already look silly.

Baba gounj · 07-27-2009, 03:41 PM

http://wbztv.com/video/?id=79393@wbz.dayport.com

Listen to the tapes yourself.
If you also listen to the 911 call, you would hear that 2 women actually were making the call.
According to Ms Whalen's attorney, she never spoke with Crowley at the house, which would make Crowley's police report inaccurate. Much like the statements made by Gates' attorney.
Now its attorney vs attorney vs Crowley, makes one wonder why everyone but the cop needs someone else to speak for them ?

Jones · 07-27-2009, 04:14 PM

At this point I'll just be glad when those guys have their beer together and this (should have been) non-controversy fades away from our collective consciousness....

moreluck · 07-27-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jones

this (should have been) non-controversy fades away from our collective consciousness....

Same fate for Pelosi, I wish!

toonertoo · 07-27-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

Same fate for Pelosi, I wish!

ditto that, LOL

diesel96 · 07-28-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

Same fate for Pelosi, I wish!

Don't think Pelosi is gonna fade away that easily....she's not a quitter like Sarah Palin is...lol

browndevil · 07-28-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by diesel96

Don't think Pelosi is gonna fade away that easily....she's not a quitter like Sarah Palin is...lol

Newest Bumper Sticker PALIN 2012-2014 1/2

moreluck · 07-28-2009, 08:52 AM

Pelosi is like a wicked old witch of the West and we just need to find "her bucket of water".

The Other Side · 07-28-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by browndevil

Newest Bumper Sticker PALIN 2012-2014 1/2

LOL

klein · 07-28-2009, 11:12 AM

I shouldn't stick my nose in american politics, but because of Pahlin, thats why Obama got the job. McKay, figured he'll put a women (Pahlin) as vice... so he gets Clinton supporters.... that sure backfired on him.
He should have went with a young dynamic guy, and he would have had better chances.

moreluck · 07-28-2009, 11:57 AM

McCain !!!

Go fix the garbage strike in Toronto...............

klein · 07-28-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

McCain !!!

Go fix the garbage strike in Toronto...............

It's already fixed in Toronto. Clean up starts today, besides it's 2000 miles away from this much cleaner city out west.

Hey, McCain, makes good fries...LOL the worlds largest frozen vegetable company, I believe.

Jagger · 07-28-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by toonertoo

Is that even a word? Certainly not one that should be used by The President of The United States of America, against our men in blue, doing their job. And the investigation has not even been completed.

The cop tried to instigate a bogus criminal charge against an innocent man. That is stupid in my book.

Jagger · 07-28-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Side

SGT crowleys report clearly states that he was told there were 2 black men breaking into the home and this is NOT TRUE.

Keep in mind that Crowley's Report was made with the intent to instigate a false charge against an innocent man. The only question is whether Officer Crowley was acting with malice or was just incompetent.

Baba gounj · 07-28-2009, 03:43 PM

ok Jagger prove your statement.
How do you justify calling Gates an innocent man?

Baba gounj · 07-28-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Other Side

How about just going on with your lives and not following the lead of the worst news agency on the planet?

The whole current events threads are nothing more those who favor the right wing nonsense aired on FAUX and repeated here as facts..

Reading thru the posts on this particular thread, the sgt is obviously innocent and the black man obviously guilty of something.

This is what right wing propaganda does on FAUX news.

Why hasnt FOX extended an offer to the professor to come on the air and tell "his" side of the story?? HMMM?

Thats right, cause it wont fit the distortion they sold you already.

Get over this case already, it was not worth your efforts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Other Side

Ok, like I said, the initial reports that FAUX news ran with and you all repeated here on this thread are FALSE. The woman who made the "call" to the police is saying today thru her attorney that she NEVER TOLD THE POLICE THERE WERE TWO BLACK MEN BREAKING INTO THE HOME.

Even though this is in SGT CROWLEYS report that this was the radio call he responded to and what he told professor Gates.

Now, who is the liar?

The police department has reviewed the 911 tapes and confirm what the caller is saying. The tapes are to be released soon.

The call, as stated by the caller merely said she saw 2 men (without race mentioned) looking like they were trying to force open a door.

It was Crowley who added that they were black.

OOPS... looks like FAUX gets caught up running with misinformation again and spreading it on the air to you loyal listeners.

SGT crowleys report clearly states that he was told there were 2 black men breaking into the home and this is NOT TRUE.

You all better cool your jets on this one until all the facts surface.

You already look silly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagger

The cop tried to instigate a bogus criminal charge against an innocent man. That is stupid in my book.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagger

Keep in mind that Crowley's Report was made with the intent to instigate a false charge against an innocent man. The only question is whether Officer Crowley was acting with malice or was just incompetent.

Watch this cnn report and tell me again what you think happened.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/...de.in.arms.cnn

toonertoo · 07-28-2009, 06:27 PM

I think the prez should go to the Cambridge Mass PD, instead of his castle. I think its unfair, 2 on 1. we already know whos side the president is on.
Hes not the great communicator. Hes not a counselor. Hes by some freak of nature our president. Now if he would just be the president, and quit spouting his wisdom when it is not his place, we could just stick with the worldwide apology tour. Enough is Enough. He does not know it all, he knows little. He doesnt even have the answers to his own bills, he wants to shove up our arses. And yet he thinks he can solve world problems. I think he needs to shut up. We can only wish the Obama bumper sticker would say
obama 2008-2009 1/2.
When really my favorite..... all kidding aside is
one big ass mistake america

moreluck · 07-28-2009, 06:47 PM

Tonight, Hannity called him a camp counselor !