Glenn Beck tearing it up in the ratings

[tonyexpress]

Originally Posted by diesel96

Worshipping a polarizing racial cry baby in Beckkk, who, on your polarizing (Fox) network professed that Pres Obama hates white people and then, conservatives have the go-nads to accuse the opposition of racial overtones....lmao

Here is an Interesting perspective from Larry Elder regarding race and Glen Beck.


But where are the usual suspects calling for the stockade?
Where was the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who once blamed racism for the Democratic Party's failure to select him as a vice presidential running mate?

Where was the Rev. Al Sharpton, who demanded the firing of talk show host Don Imus for making jokes about a black female basketball team? Where was the NAACP (which "deplored" Beck's statement but failed to even request an apology), whose chairman, Julian Bond, once vowed to pursue "the new racists" and whose Philadelphia branch marched on behalf of black quarterback Michael Vick, convicted of operating an illegal dog-fighting ring?

Where was the Congressional Black Caucus, many of whose members attributed racism to the government's response following Hurricane Katrina?


What's going on?

President Obama's election proved that racism is no longer a significant force in America. More voted for him because of his race than refused to do so for that reason.

Had the usual race-card/always-offended players targeted Beck, they stood to face a formidable counterattack. Beck's popularity and fan base continue to grow. The Obama-is-a-racist accusation notwithstanding, Beck raises legitimate criticisms of this administration. Demanding and failing to get Beck fired stood to expose these "civil rights" groups and "black leaders" for what they are — a spent force.

Race Card, R.I.P.

[fact check]

Larry Elder? Really?

Why not just post a comment by Rush Limbaugh?

[diesel96]

Originally Posted by ups1990

It's the liberals, who bring up race into a conversation. When will those of color(like myself) realize the Democratic party keeps playing the race card in order for us to continue voting them in office.

We only need to see Obama's surrounding cast to see the racist view held by them. Rev. wright, Jones...

Man of Color, (your words not mine) Have you seen how colorful the participants of the Teabaggers are ? Or how colorful the audience of Glen Beck is ? What shall we put a number at, lets see....hows 99% white. Does it bother you when the right wing nut jobbers wants you to believe your President is born in Kenya, and is a secret Muslim ? So the Democrat Party, who backed Civil Rights legislation and is compromised of a melting pot mixed bag of voters are, in your eyes, the race baiters....

Originally Posted by brett636

There is a lot of good evidence that atleast 1 million people were there. The evidence that less than 100k were present has no basis based on the pictures of the crowds I have seen.

Originally Posted by tieguy

Actually it was an easy argument to make. We took the same scale the libs used to say obama had a million watching him. We basically took your stick and beat you with it.

There's also alot of good evidense that the pictures the Gieco caveman drew on the cavewalls proves there was Aliens....
That's your evidense, facts, and logic...... your an expert picture bean counter....lmao....you must of subscribe to "The University of I can't remember" that Glen Beck refered to conclude 1.7 million people were in attendance....
BTW, the DC Fire Dept, Police and Park officials stands by their numbers...Deal with it !

Originally Posted by tonyexpress

Here is an Interesting perspective from Larry Elder regarding race and Glen Beck.


But where are the usual suspects calling for the stockade?
Where was the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who once blamed racism for the Democratic Party's failure to select him as a vice presidential running mate?

Where was the Rev. Al Sharpton, who demanded the firing of talk show host Don Imus for making jokes about a black female basketball team? Where was the NAACP (which "deplored" Beck's statement but failed to even request an apology), whose chairman, Julian Bond, once vowed to pursue "the new racists" and whose Philadelphia branch marched on behalf of black quarterback Michael Vick, convicted of operating an illegal dog-fighting ring?

Where was the Congressional Black Caucus, many of whose members attributed racism to the government's response following Hurricane Katrina?


What's going on?

President Obama's election proved that racism is no longer a significant force in America. More voted for him because of his race than refused to do so for that reason.

Had the usual race-card/always-offended players targeted Beck, they stood to face a formidable counterattack. Beck's popularity and fan base continue to grow. The Obama-is-a-racist accusation notwithstanding, Beck raises legitimate criticisms of this administration. Demanding and failing to get Beck fired stood to expose these "civil rights" groups and "black leaders" for what they are — a spent force.

Race Card, R.I.P.

Why is Larry elder leaving out the Van Jones effort and all the major sponsors that drop Glen Beck like a Tyson left hook......

And Elders assertion proves nothing "More voted for him because of his race than refused to do so for that reason."
The last few elections have been very close, and the black vote has always been over 90% Democrat. The difference here was all the new and young voters that chose to register bought into changing the republican "stay the course" road to diseaster...

[outamyway]

Originally Posted by diesel96

Man of Color, (your words not mine) Have you seen how colorful the participants of the Teabaggers are ? Or how colorful the audience of Glen Beck is ? What shall we put a number at, lets see....hows 99% white. Does it bother you when the right wing nut jobbers wants you to believe your President is born in Kenya, and is a secret Muslim ? So the Democrat Party, who backed Civil Rights legislation and is compromised of a melting pot mixed bag of voters are, in your eyes, the race baiters....





There's also alot of good evidense that the pictures the Gieco caveman drew on the cavewalls proves there was Aliens....
That's your evidense, facts, and logic...... your an expert picture bean counter....lmao....you must of subscribe to "The University of I can't remember" that Glen Beck refered to conclude 1.7 million people were in attendance....
BTW, the DC Fire Dept, Police and Park officials stands by their numbers...Deal with it !




Why is Larry elder leaving out the Van Jones effort and all the major sponsors that drop Glen Beck like a Tyson left hook......

And Elders assertion proves nothing "More voted for him because of his race than refused to do so for that reason."
The last few elections have been very close, and the black vote has always been over 90% Democrat. The difference here was all the new and young voters that chose to register bought into changing the republican "stay the course" road to diseaster...

The last few elections have been very close, and the black vote has always been over 90% Democrat.

So it's racism because a majority of Beck viewers and 9/12 marchers were white even as you write that statement?

Some how it's racism because only a small minority of an already minority ethnic group believes in conservative views?

[outamyway]

Originally Posted by fact check

Larry Elder? Really?

Why not just post a comment by Rush Limbaugh?

Well, you can't answer the questions, can you? Where are they? If Beck and his 9/12 march are a march on Obama and his race, where is Al and Jesse? Do they not care about such an obvious klan rally at our Capitol? Or are they, dare I say it, not as dense as some of the people on the left are?

Then there's the possibility they didn't even know about it, though unlikely, which wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[tonyexpress]

Originally Posted by diesel96

Why is Larry elder leaving out the Van Jones effort and all the major sponsors that drop Glen Beck like a Tyson left hook.

Big d,

The sponsors will be back his ratings are going up, not down, can’t waste that capitalistic moment!!

Unfortunately you're unable to see beyond making this a race issue.

Glen Beck as well as Larry Elder (not that it matters but Larry is black) are both of the Libertarian point of view, less government, fiscal responsibility and personal responsibility and while you may think Glen Beck is a fire breathing racist that's not really the case. He, as many Americans are concerned with the direction of the Country.

Van Jones resigned because of a poor or rather non existent vetting process by the Obama administration. Last time I checked Beck wasn't in a position to tell Van to leave, just someone who shined a light in the dark corner of his past.

Originally Posted by diesel96

And Elders assertion proves nothing "More voted for him because of his race than refused to do so for that reason."
The last few elections have been very close, and the black vote has always been over 90% Democrat. The difference here was all the new and young voters that chose to register bought into changing the republican "stay the course" road to diseaster...

I believe Elder’s assertion is correct; Obama got more black voters to the polls because he is black, period!

By the way...

Abolishing slavery was almost exclusively a Republican Party effort, only four Democrats voted for it.

So, if you want to talk about where racism comes from perhaps you should dig into the history of the democratic Party....

YOU LIE!!! TELL THE TRUTH, TELL THE TRUTH, HELL WITH TRUTH...RIGHT!! LOL!!

[browndevil]

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Abolishing slavery was almost exclusively a Republican Party effort, only four Democrats voted for it

Tony, how I long to have that party of Lincoln back. Unfortunately the " religious right" has hijacked them and turned that party into a disfunctional group.

[Hoaxster]

Originally Posted by browndevil

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Abolishing slavery was almost exclusively a Republican Party effort, only four Democrats voted for it

Tony, how I long to have that party of Lincoln back. Unfortunately the " religious right" has hijacked them and turned that party into a disfunctional group.

And the Demoncrats are still the haters.
Where is that 3rd party?

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by fact check

Larry Elder? Really?

Why not just post a comment by Rush Limbaugh?

considering the point that his ratings are much better then any of the liberal commentators that may not be a bad idea.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by diesel96

There's also alot of good evidense that the pictures the Gieco caveman drew on the cavewalls proves there was Aliens....

Does not matter if we used an abacus. the point remains we used the same scale you folks used to measure Obamas crowd size.

Tell me Obama only had 40 K show up for his inaugeration and I'll move on.

[diesel96]

Originally Posted by outamyway

So it's racism because a majority of Beck viewers and 9/12 marchers were white even as you write that statement?

Some how it's racism because only a small minority of an already minority ethnic group believes in conservative views?

Originally Posted by tonyexpress

Big d,

Unfortunately you're unable to see beyond making this a race issue.

Are you not hearing Glen Beck tell America, Obama hates white people?
Are you not hearing Rush Linbaugh tell America,"This is Obama's America, when two black kids beat up a white kid on a school bus".
Are you not hearing "Barack, the magic Negro" played on the air waves.
Are you not hearing the "Birthers" claiming obama was born in Kenya.

So I'm unable to see beyond, making this a race issue, your right, I lean towards anti-racial.......BTW, Have you seen the Presidential election poll results of the South and the Bible belt?

Originally Posted by tonyexpress

I believe Elder’s assertion is correct; Obama got more black voters to the polls because he is black, period!

So did Clinton, he was known as America's first black President. Like I said, the ratio for the black vote is way higher than 90% for the Democrat party reguardless of a white canidate or a black candidate.

Originally Posted by tonyexpress

Abolishing slavery was almost exclusively a Republican Party effort, only four Democrats voted for it.

So, if you want to talk about where racism comes from perhaps you should dig into the history of the democratic Party....

Originally Posted by browndevil

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Tony, how I long to have that party of Lincoln back. Unfortunately the " religious right" has hijacked them and turned that party into a disfunctional group.

Thank you Browndevil for saving me some keystrokes....

Originally Posted by tieguy

Does not matter if we used an abacus. the point remains we used the same scale you folks used to measure Obamas crowd size.

Tell me Obama only had 40 K show up for his inaugeration and I'll move on.

Ok, Tie, so DC officials are wrap up in one of your conspiracy thoeries

[brett636]

Originally Posted by diesel96

Are you not hearing Glen Beck tell America, Obama hates white people?
Are you not hearing Rush Linbaugh tell America,"This is Obama's America, when two black kids beat up a white kid on a school bus".
Are you not hearing "Barack, the magic Negro" played on the air waves.
Are you not hearing the "Birthers" claiming obama was born in Kenya.

So I'm unable to see beyond, making this a race issue, your right, I lean towards anti-racial.......BTW, Have you seen the Presidential election poll results of the South and the Bible belt?

I guess I can't blame you for wanting to focus on just the race issue. I mean, if you actually had to debate on another point you would actually have to say something meaningful. Even do a little research. Its so much easier to call someone a racist and move on, even when you have no evidence of this being true.

[yurgref]

Originally Posted by brett636

BTW, did you want the competing shows ratings?

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,609,000
FOXNEWS BECK 3,340,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,986,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,522,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,362,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 2,040,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,573,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,164,000
CNN KING 965,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 882,000
MSNBC SCHULTZ 734,000
CNN COOPER 691,000

This means NOTHING - All you are doing is comparing Apples and Oranges the last time I know the bottom 6 broadcasts on Cable while the Top 6 broadcasts over cable and the open air ways -

[diesel96]

Originally Posted by brett636

I guess I can't blame you for wanting to focus on just the race issue. I mean, if you actually had to debate on another point you would actually have to say something meaningful. Even do a little research. Its so much easier to call someone a racist and move on, even when you have no evidence of this being true.

Your not paying attention here Brett, or maybe you just suffer from selective hearing. My previous post are examples of blatant racism, yet know rebuttal. Those messages go out to millions of gulible listeners out there in Conservative land. More than 200 hundred days into his Presidency and there's still misinformed Americans questioning his legitimacy, his religion, and his birth state.

The Obama Adm should not, and will not, address this trumped up mfg'ed race card issue, that conservatives are trying to conjure up. They are above that, and have bigger fish to fry. But, since many conservatives are hammering the left/Dem's of using the race card, it's easy to ignore their own self indignations. Mudslinging hurts when the mud is thrown back in your face....

[brett636]

Originally Posted by yurgref

This means NOTHING - All you are doing is comparing Apples and Oranges the last time I know the bottom 6 broadcasts on Cable while the Top 6 broadcasts over cable and the open air ways -

Check that list again. All those shows are on cable news networks. Not one broadcasts over open airways. They are an apples to apples comparison.

[brett636]

Originally Posted by diesel96

Your not paying attention here Brett, or maybe you just suffer from selective hearing. My previous post are examples of blatant racism, yet know rebuttal. Those messages go out to millions of gulible listeners out there in Conservative land. More than 200 hundred days into his Presidency and there's still misinformed Americans questioning his legitimacy, his religion, and his birth state.

The Obama Adm should not, and will not, address this trumped up mfg'ed race card issue, that conservatives are trying to conjure up. They are above that, and have bigger fish to fry. But, since many conservatives are hammering the left/Dem's of using the race card, it's easy to ignore their own self indignations. Mudslinging hurts when the mud is thrown back in your face....

The only trumped up racism remarks are coming from you and your ilk. Anyone who disagrees with the President is labeled a racist. Although nobody seems to be able to prove it beyond the name calling. It doesn't stop the intellectually lazy like yourself from throwing out a word that you have no clue as to what the actual meaning is.

Let me put it to you another way. When you call Glenn Beck or any other conservative racist for disagreeing with the President you sound like the kid in this picture. He has no idea what racism is, or what it means, or its history. He only knows it has something to do with skin color which is all it seems you and other liberals seem to understand about it too.

[Jones]

That's a nice picture Brett, I guess you and your buddies think that kind of thing is just hilarious. You're a real class act.

[brett636]

Originally Posted by Jones

That's a nice picture Brett, I guess you and your buddies think that kind of thing is just hilarious. You're a real class act.

Awww, did I strike a nerve with you? That picture reminds me of every pea brained liberal who wants to call everyone a racist simply because they don't want government healthcare, higher taxes, and reduced future opportunities for themselves and their kids. To answer your question though yes I do find it very comical. Do you not agree?

[diesel96]

Originally Posted by brett636

It doesn't stop the intellectually lazy like yourself from throwing out a word that you have no clue as to what the actual meaning is.

Originally Posted by brett636

That picture reminds me of every pea brained liberal who wants to call everyone a racist

Brett, since your such an intellect, and anybody to the left of you are pea brains, why are spending so much time attacking the messengers and not the substance presented to you? You'd been given examples and evidense, were still waiting....Or are you an example of your avatar...A Joker.

[knightablaze]

Originally Posted by scratch

You write some amusing stuff, knightablaze. Which party plays the race card all the time? Growing up in the South, I remember the Civil Rights Movement well. Alabama Governor George Wallace, Georgia Governor Lester Maddox, just too many to list. And look at all the ones today:
http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html

You misrepresent me. When you quoted me, you intentionally edited my post to put words in my mouth in order to argue with something I didn't even write.

I didn't say that there are millions of racists in america. I said that the international opinion of the USA is summed up by the top comment attached to the article. The editorial slant coming out of the BBC and CTV seems to suggest that Glenn Beck and his ilk are popular because of racism.

[Jones]

Originally Posted by brett636

Awww, did I strike a nerve with you? That picture reminds me of every pea brained liberal who wants to call everyone a racist simply because they don't want government healthcare, higher taxes, and reduced future opportunities for themselves and their kids. To answer your question though yes I do find it very comical. Do you not agree?

I think the fact that you find it comical doesn't say a whole lot good about you. At one time I thought you were basically a decent guy who I just disagreed with about some issues. I'm starting to think that it's more than that. I Googled "that's racist picture", and found this page: click (the comments are nice, I'm sure you'll get a kick out of them if you haven't already). This one popped up as well: click. And no, it doesn't strike a nerve with me Brett, I meet people like you all the time and I've gotten used to it. Just kinda disappointing I guess.

[scratch]

Originally Posted by knightablaze

Wouldn't it be the incessant lies and vitriol from the right that's been polarizing the States? At least according to the Canadians and British, it's the American conservatives causing so much shame.

I did not originally read the link that was in the first post, now I see that what you put in italics was a quote from "American Patriot" off mediabristo.com. I was responding more to the quote above that suggested its the conservatives who are causing the problem. If you got that from somewhere else, then I apologize. When it comes to matters of race, its usually the liberals that always throw out the race card to shut up anybody that disagrees with their views. I actually agree with the statement that there are millions of racists in the United States. I have met a few all over the United States. And they come from both parties and are from all races.

[knightablaze]

Originally Posted by scratch

I did not originally read the link that was in the first post, now I see that what you put in italics was a quote from "American Patriot" off mediabristo.com. I was responding more to the quote above that suggested its the conservatives who are causing the problem. If you got that from somewhere else, then I apologize. When it comes to matters of race, its usually the liberals that always throw out the race card to shut up anybody that disagrees with their views. I actually agree with the statement that there are millions of racists in the United States. I have met a few all over the United States. And they come from both parties and are from all races.

Yah, it's really silly to throw around the race card when backed into a corner without answers. But I can't really respect Glenn Beck because of the sheer amount of dissonance he must have in his head given the contradictory and inflammatory things that come out of his mouth.

I'm not saying that he doesn't like white people...this guy I believe, is a racist. ["]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

And with Glenn Beck and his really twisted reasoning and analysis of race relations he could gather the racist demographic.

[over9five]

Originally Posted by knightablaze

And with Glenn Beck and his really twisted reasoning and analysis of race relations he could gather the racist demographic.

LOL! "The racist demographic"!!!

Kinda the opposite of Obama, anyone who agrees with Beck must be a racist!!

LOL, you're a funny guy!

[knightablaze]

Originally Posted by over9five

LOL! "The racist demographic"!!!

Kinda the opposite of Obama, anyone who agrees with Beck must be a racist!!

LOL, you're a funny guy!

Not everyone. But certainly a number of his comments would appeal to people who judge others based on race. Please, don't do the whole strawman thing, it gets old quick.