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Old 10-24-2009, 03:31 PM   #26
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Some liberals -not all- have very short memories. During the democratic primaries when the race card was used against Hillary and Bill there was an uproar by many Libs that ABC,CBS,NBC, CNN AND especially the warm feelings flowing down the legs of that professional NEWS organization Msnbc- that they were all in the tank for Obama. Terry McCauliffe went out of his way to state the only FAIR and Balanced NEWS ORGANIZATION was Fox.
I believe that this will backfire on Obama --many of the fair minded libs remember what I described above.
There are also many liberals and independents that watch and listen to Fox that have been described by the wacky democratic congressman in Florida as enimies of the people ????
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Less than 1% of deaths have occurred from Swine Flu in US thus far, as opposed to nation's seasonal national flu numbers

by DefendUSx October 24, 2009 17:41 So far, it has been reported that 1000 deaths in the US have resulted from H1N1 (and even that number is likely inflated).
The average number of deaths from regular/seasonal flu is 36,000.
36000/1000 gives you .027%
In other words, less than half a percent have died so far than the national average for the seasonal flu.
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:27 PM   #28
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This is the White House idea of "fair and balanced", Anita Dunn takes a break from worshipping mass muderer Mao Tse-tung to brag about feeding stories to the mainstream media. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113347

Its about time the rest of the networks finally showed some integrety for once with the Steinburg interview. There may be some hope for them still.
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Here's a great OP ED piece that sums up the Republican Followers need for Buffoons..


By DAVID BROOKS
Published: October 2, 2009
Let us take a trip back into history. Not ancient history. Recent history. It is the winter of 2007. The presidential primaries are approaching. The talk jocks like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and the rest are over the moon about Fred Thompson. They’re weak at the knees at the thought of Mitt Romney. Meanwhile, they are hurling torrents of abuse at the unreliable deviationists: John McCain and Mike Huckabee.
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The Conversation Yet somehow, despite the fervor of the great microphone giants, the Thompson campaign flops like a fish. Despite the schoolgirl delight from the radio studios, the Romney campaign underperforms.





Meanwhile, Huckabee surges. Limbaugh attacks him, but social conservatives flock.
Along comes New Hampshire and McCain wins! Republican voters have not heeded their masters in the media. Before long, South Carolina looms as the crucial point of the race. The contest is effectively between Romney and McCain. The talk jocks are now in spittle-flecked furor. Day after day, whole programs are dedicated to hurling abuse at McCain and everybody ever associated with him. The jocks are threatening to unleash their angry millions.
Yet the imaginary armies do not materialize. McCain wins the South Carolina primary and goes on to win the nomination. The talk jocks can’t even deliver the conservative voters who show up at Republican primaries. They can’t even deliver South Carolina!
So what is the theme of our history lesson? It is a story of remarkable volume and utter weakness. It is the story of media mavens who claim to represent a hidden majority but who in fact represent a mere niche — even in the Republican Party. It is a story as old as “The Wizard of Oz,” of grand illusions and small men behind the curtain.
But, of course, we shouldn’t be surprised by this story. Over the past few years the talk jocks have demonstrated their real-world weakness time and again. Back in 2006, they threatened to build a new majority on anti-immigration fervor. Republicans like J.D. Hayworth and Randy Graf, both of Arizona, built their House election campaigns under that banner. But these two didn’t march to glory. Both lost their campaigns.
In 2008, after McCain had won his nomination, Limbaugh turned his attention to the Democratic race. He commanded his followers to vote in the Democratic primaries for Hillary Clinton because “we need Barack Obama bloodied up politically.” Todd Donovan of Western Washington University has looked at data from 38 states and could find no strong evidence that significant numbers of people actually did what Limbaugh commanded. Rush blared the trumpets, but few of his Dittoheads advanced.
Over the years, I have asked many politicians what happens when Limbaugh and his colleagues attack. The story is always the same. Hundreds of calls come in. The receptionists are miserable. But the numbers back home do not move. There is no effect on the favorability rating or the re-election prospects. In the media world, he is a giant. In the real world, he’s not.
But this is not merely a story of weakness. It is a story of resilience. For no matter how often their hollowness is exposed, the jocks still reweave the myth of their own power. They still ride the airwaves claiming to speak for millions. They still confuse listeners with voters. And they are aided in this endeavor by their enablers. They are enabled by cynical Democrats, who love to claim that Rush Limbaugh controls the G.O.P. They are enabled by lazy pundits who find it easier to argue with showmen than with people whose opinions are based on knowledge. They are enabled by the slightly educated snobs who believe that Glenn Beck really is the voice of Middle America.
So the myth returns. Just months after the election and the humiliation, everyone is again convinced that Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and the rest possess real power. And the saddest thing is that even Republican politicians come to believe it. They mistake media for reality. They pre-emptively surrender to armies that don’t exist.
They pay more attention to Rush’s imaginary millions than to the real voters down the street. The Republican Party is unpopular because it’s more interested in pleasing Rush’s ghosts than actual people. The party is leaderless right now because nobody has the guts to step outside the rigid parameters enforced by the radio jocks and create a new party identity. The party is losing because it has adopted a radio entertainer’s niche-building strategy, while abandoning the politician’s coalition-building strategy.
The rise of Beck, Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and the rest has correlated almost perfectly with the decline of the G.O.P. But it’s not because the talk jocks have real power. It’s because they have illusory power, because Republicans hear the media mythology and fall for it every time.
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Wow...it looks like "The Other Side" watches Fox news 24/7. It just proves that left wingers are watching Fox too.
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What the heck is this all about? Is this the most petty squabble you've ever heard of? Shouldn't this be below the White House?

And most importantly, Isn't this an attack on "Freedom Of The Press"? Thank God the rest of the White House Press Corp backed Fox News by refusing to interview Feinberg if Fox News was excluded. Obama got a bloody nose on that one!

Of course, the petty Obama Administration retaliated by limiting Feinbergs interviews to 2 minutes instead of the promised 5.

I think I heard Leno even say, "The President has decided to send 40,000 new troops to fight the war on.......Fox news!"


So I have to ask, Is the Administration crumbling? He can't make a decision about sending more troops to Afghanistan, but he wants to fight a war with a news station. He can't even decide when he's going to decide. Someone said he's indecisive in his indecisiveness!

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    Rush Was Punked: “Obama Thesis” Hoax

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    It must have seemed so perfect. An obscure blogger unearths some pages of President Obama's college thesis. The report supposedly comes from big-time journalist Joe Klein of Time magazine. And the thesis has some real gems: like Obama's disdain for the Constitution.
    The whole thing was nothing more than a satirical post on a humor blog. But Rush Limbaugh, who quoted from the supposed thesis on his radio show, sure wasn't laughing. Here's how it went down.
    An unknown blogger picked up on a made-up post meant as a joke, which claimed that Joe Klein had gotten his hands on 10 pages of student Obama's college thesis. Rush Limbaugh jumped on it, which immediately sparked Web searches on "obama thesis."
    Supposedly titled "Aristocracy Revisited," the excerpt revealed the president had "doubts" about the "so-called founders." Juicy. Except not true. Limbaugh discovered halfway through his show that he'd been had, but defended himself by saying basically the thesis felt true. Listen in to Rush's mea sorta culpa.
    Joe Klein finally jumped in, and called the report "nonsense" on his Swampland blog, and the blogger who thought the hoax was real also apologized.
    Let's hope someone kept their sense of humor in all this. Still, for a humble post to go from humor blog to major media outlet sure seems impressive. Someone ought to write their thesis on it. For real.



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Wow...it looks like "The Other Side" watches Fox news 24/7. It just proves that left wingers are watching Fox too.

Man what is the deal with you guys just putting people on the left or the right? MOST PEOPLE WHO VOTE ARE IN THE MIDDLE. MOST PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA AGAIN! GET OVER IT! OBAMA IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A REAL LIBERAL. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE GOP IS NOW DEAD. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER AND OPINION JOURNALISM (FOX NEWS) WILL NOT HELP SARAH PALIN AT ALL OR ANYONE THAT TRIES TO RUN AGAINST OBAMA. YOU SEE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE BLACK VOTERS ARE NOW INVOLVED. THE RIGHT WILL NEED A MIRACLE TO BEAT OBAMA OR ANY DEMOCRAT FOR THAT MATTER.
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Man what is the deal with you guys just putting people on the left or the right? MOST PEOPLE WHO VOTE ARE IN THE MIDDLE.
My theory why Fox's ratings are so high, it appeals to a very general polarizing audience who find satisfaction and reassurances in half truths, sound bites, labels, and mis-information . While the rest of the country absorbs their news, info, data thru multiple portals, gaining multiple points of views....
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Yeah, the alternative to Fox features some guy who gets a quiver up his leg when he thinks of Obama....remember that ?? That was a real professional news job!!
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Baba, you math is just a bit off. You forgot to multiply your answer by 100 to give you the %, so it is actually 2.7%
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thats the point. FAUX news is merely a channel of OPINION, not news.

The term "NEWS" Brett, is an acronym for NORTH EAST WEST SOUTH. There is no reporting of NEWS from the north, east, west and south on FAUX news.

Collectively, there programming is purely political, and being political, they "frame" the arguement from the perspective of the right wing.

Lets look at the days programming:

6 to 8 am, Bill Hemmer and a Megyn Kelly, 2 hours of health care , afghanistan, Gitmo and Iran everyday, 5 days a week. They use 30 sec "fillers" to separate the issues, then repeat the same stories over and over. Use republican sen and congressmen to highlight each issue with "lead in" questions and allow them to ramble without a single challenge to their points.

8 to 10 am, John Scott and Jane Skinner. 2 hours of health care, afghanistan, Gitmo and Iran 5 days a week. Again, 30 sec "fillers' to separate issues. Then Repeat same. Use republican sen and congressmen to highlight each issue with "lead in" questions and allow them to ramble without a single challenge to their points.

10 to 12, Martha MacCallum and Trace Gallegher, 2 hours of health care, afghanistan, Gitmo and Iran 5 days a week. Again, 30 sec "fillers' to separate issues. Then Repeat same. Use republican sen and congressmen to highlight each issue with "lead in" questions and allow them to ramble without a single challenge to their points.

12 to 1, Sheppard Smith, a lower keyed look at the days politics, again republican guests come on and speak to softball questions and ramble endlessly on how bad Obama is as a president 5 days a week.

1 to 2, Neil Cavuto, arguably the worst of the days lineup, he bashes OBAMA for a solid hour, suppose to be talking about business yet spends the hour on health care, afghanistan and nancy pelosi or Harry Reid.

2 to 3, Glen Beck, a solid hour of Obama Bashing , name calling, exageration, hyperbole and rediculous dramatics.

3 to 4 , Brett Baier. Actually the most calm of all the programming on Fox. He does a good job pf presenting his facts and refrains from looking like a clown even though he supports the right wing agenda. At least he can do it without completely sounding as if hes been brainwashed.

4 to 5, Sheppard Smith again with the days recap on politics. He does the stories in a professional manner, refrains from hyperbole and antics. One of the better opinion shows on FOx.

5 to 6, Bill Orielly, was the biggest coward on Fox until the arrival of Beck, he uses "guests" to slam Obama and the democrats while trying to straddle the fence so none of the slander sticks to him. His use of surrogates to bash Obama nightly demonstrates his lack of "sacK' when it comes to being tough. His bully style of telling people to "shut up" or never letting a guest complete a sentence as he is getting "owned" on a subject is laughable. He spends his hour trying to highlight prominent democrats in compromising situations. He was the biggest buffoon on Fox, but has been replaced by Beck.

7 to 8, Sean Hannity, the extremist dream rests on Hannity, his drapping of himself in the flag, his pandering to those who are easily manipulated by patriotism and loyalty (as the nazis used) using the extreme neo conservatives as guests to push the right wing agenda. His routine is old, he has nothing on his own, and needs to bring in Coulter, Rove, Cheney,Moore and the other right wing extremist to say what he ISNT qualified to say.

One on one, he would get his ASH handed to him in a political debate.

9 to 10, Greta van Susteren, once a well recieved legal reporter now turned political activist for Fox. No longer using her time as a legal reporter, she spends most of her time bashing Obama and his policies.

11 to midnight is an assorted crew of bashers who cover a wide range of topics and try to be funny.


So my question is? WHERE IS THE NEWS??

Brett you said "something akin to an editorial page in a newspaper"

Well, your exactly right. Its an opinion channel and NOT a NEWS channel as proclaimed.

For once, you have it correctly. I would like to know where the balance is?? Where is the Liberal representation show on FAUX? A complete day of RIGHT WING bashing and they call themselves Balanced?

Better yet, those that follow FAUX call them balanced, but where exactly is the balance?

FAUX has shown that it does not deserve to be considered reporting news channel and should be called out for it.

If i want statistics and facts, ill watch CNN. No goofy shows, NO outlandish personalities, No props, NO surrogates. Just news. When they have a debate, they have all sides presented.

FOX will bring on the "Weakest" liberal they can find, Like Alan Colmes who couldnt fight his way out of a wet paper bag to provide "balance".

Get serious Brett, you cannot defend FOX NEWS.

I stand by my original statement. Your entire post only supports my belief that you do not have the mental capacity to discern between the opinion shows like Glenn Beck versus news shows that are played the rest of the day. If fox is so right wing why is almost 50% of their viewership liberal? Its because as Pew research has shown they are the most balanced news channel on cable. The white house is simply annoyed that fox is not their lapdog like ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. is. Obama cannot handle criticism from anyone, he has to be praised all the time.
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Even the most liberal Obama butt kissers should be concerned about the White House attempt to dismantle the free press. You guys aren't a little bit concerned? Not at all?

He already owns the banking system, Wall St, and the auto industry. Can't you see that the attack on Fox News was a move to own the press as well?

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Who Hates Glenn Beck?
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Baba, you math is just a bit off. You forgot to multiply your answer by 100 to give you the %, so it is actually 2.7%
Thank you. Either way it's still such a small number to produce a nation wide panic. I think more people die daily in auto wrecks than this flu, yet no one has called for the banning of all autos.
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Thank you. Either way it's still such a small number to produce a nation wide panic. I think more people die daily in auto wrecks than this flu, yet no one has called for the banning of all autos.
Excellent point!!!
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Thank you. Either way it's still such a small number to produce a nation wide panic. I think more people die daily in auto wrecks than this flu, yet no one has called for the banning of all autos.
I find it to be more of a ploy to help health care reform along than it is to alert the nation to a disease that has proven to be less lethal than originally thought. It is just too convenient that congress is about to vote on health care reform and we get this national emergency regarding the swine flu.
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  • Obama's Fake Thesis Buzz


    Rush Was Punked: “Obama Thesis” Hoax

    by Claudine Zap 32 hours ago
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    It must have seemed so perfect. An obscure blogger unearths some pages of President Obama's college thesis. The report supposedly comes from big-time journalist Joe Klein of Time magazine. And the thesis has some real gems: like Obama's disdain for the Constitution.
    The whole thing was nothing more than a satirical post on a humor blog. But Rush Limbaugh, who quoted from the supposed thesis on his radio show, sure wasn't laughing. Here's how it went down.
    An unknown blogger picked up on a made-up post meant as a joke, which claimed that Joe Klein had gotten his hands on 10 pages of student Obama's college thesis. Rush Limbaugh jumped on it, which immediately sparked Web searches on "obama thesis."
    Supposedly titled "Aristocracy Revisited," the excerpt revealed the president had "doubts" about the "so-called founders." Juicy. Except not true. Limbaugh discovered halfway through his show that he'd been had, but defended himself by saying basically the thesis felt true. Listen in to Rush's mea sorta culpa.
    Joe Klein finally jumped in, and called the report "nonsense" on his Swampland blog, and the blogger who thought the hoax was real also apologized.
    Let's hope someone kept their sense of humor in all this. Still, for a humble post to go from humor blog to major media outlet sure seems impressive. Someone ought to write their thesis on it. For real.



Transcripts from his show that day. He found out an hour after he started to talk about the thesis, it may very well be made up. "I don't care if these quotes are made up. I know Obama thinks it. You know why I know Obama thinks it? Because I've heard him say it." I feel the exact same way. And I don't even listen to Rush.




RUSH: In the first hour of this program, I cited a statement that Michael Ledeen found on the blog Jumping in Pools reporting on Obama's college thesis written when he was at Columbia. The paper was called "Aristocracy Reborn," and in the first ten pages Obama wrote the following: "[T]he Constitution allows for many things but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believe the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy." Now, I got a note from a researcher who has been scouring the Internet, and the note says this:

"Rush Limbaugh: Mini-warning on these quotes." Because the paper that Obama wrote, "Aristocracy Reborn," the first ten pages were all that reporter Joe Klein was permitted to see; and it says here that Klein did write about it for TIME Magazine. A researcher has been scouring the Internet and can't find any sources for the quote. "The blog that Ledeen cites doesn't have supporting info," supposedly. The source post that was from August, says it's going to be in an upcoming report from Joe Klein, but the researcher can't find anything that has come out since, and nothing in Klein's blog. There have been no matches found on the Internet for any of the info or quotes other than the source posting. So I now say that the blog from which this came has no sourcing data other than Joe Klein upcoming report and Joe Klein hasn't written his upcoming report.

So we have to hold out the possibility that this is not accurate. However, I have had this happen to me recently. I have had quotes attributed to me that were made up, and when it was pointed out to the media that the quotes were made up, they said, "It doesn't matter! We know Limbaugh thinks it anyway." Sort of like Dan Rather said, "I don't care if these documents are forged. I know that Bush did what he did at the National Guard. I don't care if the documents are forged." I don't care if the Limbaugh quotes are made up. So, I can say, "I don't care if these quotes are made up. I know Obama thinks it. You know why I know Obama thinks it? Because I've heard him say it." Not about the Constitution, but about the Supreme Court. Again, 2001, FM radio station interview in Chicago when he was a state senator in Illinois.

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I stand by my original statement. Your entire post only supports my belief that you do not have the mental capacity to discern between the opinion shows like Glenn Beck versus news shows that are played the rest of the day. If fox is so right wing why is almost 50% of their viewership liberal? Its because as Pew research has shown they are the most balanced news channel on cable. The white house is simply annoyed that fox is not their lapdog like ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. is. Obama cannot handle criticism from anyone, he has to be praised all the time.

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this isnt about mental capacity, but I guess you had to try to use a "big" word in discern, so I will try to help you along.

This from the PEW center:
Partisanship and Cable Sources

Four-in-ten (40%) Americans cite a major cable news outlet (CNN, Fox News and MSNBC) as their main source for news about national and international affairs. As in the past, comparable percentages say they rely on CNN (22%) and Fox News (19%) while fewer (6%) say they get most of their news from MSNBC.
There has been a gradual widening in the partisan differences in the viewership of both Fox News and CNN in recent years. More than three times as many Republicans (34%) as Democrats (10%) say they get most of their national and international news from Fox. By comparison, Democrats are more than twice as likely than Republicans to cite CNN (29% vs. 13%). A similar pattern is evident for MSNBC, with more Democrats (9%) than Republicans (3%) citing it as a main news source.

Whole report here:
http://people-press.org/report/543/

Hardly backs up the claims made by FOX and yourself of viewership being close to 40% liberal, but then again, facts have never been your Forte'.

FAUX news in its lineup as posted gives you NO opportunity to demonstrate where they report NEWS and thats what this is about.

To be a news agency, you must report news. FOX is nothing more than a political channel expressing OPINION and not facts. Exageration, disinformation and hyperbole is the key to maintaining its republican audience as thats all they understand.

Just this morning, from 6am pst to 8am pst, its been health care. Two solid hours of bashing health care reform. How do you call this news?

Do you not know health care is being debated in congress and have to be reminded everyday, every 15 mins, every hour?

Every story on faux has these words: could be, may have, possibly could happen, might happen, ...nothing but contrived scare tactics.

If you read the pew research center report, accuracy among all cable news networks is down, mostly attributed to the BUSH term, where cable news turned into political arms of each party.

As for newspapers, they are a dying entity and should be allowed to die. People today, are turning to the internet as wireless technology allows them to search news with live feeds vs. yestersdays headlines.

Its funny how the right wing like Hannity, Rush and the like try to convince the audience that newspapers are failing because they are liberal in converage. This just isnt true.

Its alot easier to read the news on a laptop, than having to deal with newspaper and then storing or disposing of it.

Technology will ultimately kill the newspaper industry as citizens increase their home computer or laptop use thru wireless technology.

FAUX needs to be treated for what it is, a political arm of the right wing.

The Facade has been lifted and they got what they deserved, a slap in the face. The US isnt the only country in the whole kicking FOX off the air, It will only be a matter of time before BECK completely ruins the FOX reputation with his antics.

I cant wait for that to happen.
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Fox news reminds me of the Jerry Springer Show, once popular, too.
Until people found out is was all BS, too.
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That's a ridiculous comparison.......Fox goes well beyond the hills of West Virginia to get guests on their show.
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BRETT,

this isnt about mental capacity, but I guess you had to try to use a "big" word in discern, so I will try to help you along.

This from the PEW center:
Partisanship and Cable Sources

Four-in-ten (40%) Americans cite a major cable news outlet (CNN, Fox News and MSNBC) as their main source for news about national and international affairs. As in the past, comparable percentages say they rely on CNN (22%) and Fox News (19%) while fewer (6%) say they get most of their news from MSNBC.
There has been a gradual widening in the partisan differences in the viewership of both Fox News and CNN in recent years. More than three times as many Republicans (34%) as Democrats (10%) say they get most of their national and international news from Fox. By comparison, Democrats are more than twice as likely than Republicans to cite CNN (29% vs. 13%). A similar pattern is evident for MSNBC, with more Democrats (9%) than Republicans (3%) citing it as a main news source.

Whole report here:
http://people-press.org/report/543/

Hardly backs up the claims made by FOX and yourself of viewership being close to 40% liberal, but then again, facts have never been your Forte'.

FAUX news in its lineup as posted gives you NO opportunity to demonstrate where they report NEWS and thats what this is about.

To be a news agency, you must report news. FOX is nothing more than a political channel expressing OPINION and not facts. Exageration, disinformation and hyperbole is the key to maintaining its republican audience as thats all they understand.

Just this morning, from 6am pst to 8am pst, its been health care. Two solid hours of bashing health care reform. How do you call this news?

Do you not know health care is being debated in congress and have to be reminded everyday, every 15 mins, every hour?

Every story on faux has these words: could be, may have, possibly could happen, might happen, ...nothing but contrived scare tactics.

If you read the pew research center report, accuracy among all cable news networks is down, mostly attributed to the BUSH term, where cable news turned into political arms of each party.

As for newspapers, they are a dying entity and should be allowed to die. People today, are turning to the internet as wireless technology allows them to search news with live feeds vs. yestersdays headlines.

Its funny how the right wing like Hannity, Rush and the like try to convince the audience that newspapers are failing because they are liberal in converage. This just isnt true.

Its alot easier to read the news on a laptop, than having to deal with newspaper and then storing or disposing of it.

Technology will ultimately kill the newspaper industry as citizens increase their home computer or laptop use thru wireless technology.

FAUX needs to be treated for what it is, a political arm of the right wing.

The Facade has been lifted and they got what they deserved, a slap in the face. The US isnt the only country in the whole kicking FOX off the air, It will only be a matter of time before BECK completely ruins the FOX reputation with his antics.

I cant wait for that to happen.
Look, I could go out and gather up all the facts to disprove most, if not everything you just stated. The problem is you are a barking moonbat and will not listen to reason so I have better things to do like watch today's Glenn Beck show that I recorded on my DVR. Just remember that Fox's ratings blow the competition out of the water at anytime of the day. I'm sure you will sleep well at night knowing more people are watching Glenn Beck than all other cable news shows combined in that time slot.
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Look, I could go out and gather up all the facts to disprove most, if not everything you just stated. The problem is you are a barking moonbat and will not listen to reason so I have better things to do like watch today's Glenn Beck show that I recorded on my DVR. Just remember that Fox's ratings blow the competition out of the water at anytime of the day. I'm sure you will sleep well at night knowing more people are watching Glenn Beck than all other cable news shows combined in that time slot.
I'm afraid he might be right (mind you , up north we don't get Glenn).
But according to this map, most of "Jesusland" does. :

This map started popping up after the 2004 Presidential election in the US, when George W. Bush got re-elected (with a legitimate majority this time). Democratic challenger John F. Kerry only won a handful of states, mainly on both coasts – where the electorate is more ‘liberal’ than in the more rural ‘flyover’ states in the middle. This map was to demonstrate the political divide between the Bushites on one side and rational people in the US and elsewhere.
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I'm afraid he might be right (mind you , up north we don't get Glenn).
But according to this map, most of "Jesusland" does. :

This map started popping up after the 2004 Presidential election in the US, when George W. Bush got re-elected (with a legitimate majority this time). Democratic challenger John F. Kerry only won a handful of states, mainly on both coasts – where the electorate is more ‘liberal’ than in the more rural ‘flyover’ states in the middle. This map was to demonstrate the political divide between the Bushites on one side and rational people in the US and elsewhere.
Some of these articles you cut and paste here I usually wonder if you really even comprehend what you are posting. In this case you obviously don't, but I expect nothing less from a man who would drink on company time. That information is neither relevant nor true today. Atleast in regards to the most recent presidential election where a lot of what you have labeled there as "Jesusland" voted for our current failure of a President. I do find it humorous when liberal wackos try to demean religious people for their faith. Regardless of what that faith is, at least they believe in principles as a foundation for their belief system. Principles that you wouldn't understand because you have no foundation for your beliefs other than government.
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Some of these articles you cut and paste here I usually wonder if you really even comprehend what you are posting. In this case you obviously don't, but I expect nothing less from a man who would drink on company time. That information is neither relevant nor true today. Atleast in regards to the most recent presidential election where a lot of what you have labeled there as "Jesusland" voted for our current failure of a President. I do find it humorous when liberal wackos try to demean religious people for their faith. Regardless of what that faith is, at least they believe in principles as a foundation for their belief system. Principles that you wouldn't understand because you have no foundation for your beliefs other than government.
Gee, I knew I would get in trouble with you, but it's all fun. Take a laugh now and then !

But, you're right that map is from 2004.
"Greenland" got a lot smaller.

It's all good.
It was just fun.
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CNN drops to last place among cable news networks

CNN Drops to Last Place Among Cable News Networks

By Bill Carter Paul Hawthorne/Getty
CNN, which invented the cable news network more than two decades ago, will hit a new competitive low with its prime-time programs in October, finishing fourth – and last – among the cable news networks with the audience that all the networks rely on for their advertising.
The official monthly numbers will be finalized at 4 p.m. Monday and will include results from Friday. CNN executives conceded that will not change the competitive standing for the month. CNN will still be last in prime time. That means CNN’s programs were behind not only Fox News and MSNBC, but even its own sister network HLN (formerly Headline News.) Three of its four shows between 7 and 11 p.m. finished fourth and last among the cable news networks. That was the first time CNN had finished that poorly with its prime-time shows.


The results demonstrate once more the apparent preference of viewers for opinion-oriented shows from the news networks in prime time. CNN has steered opinion hosts like Nancy Grace to HLN, while maintaining more news-oriented shows on CNN itself. When news events are not being intensely followed, CNN executives acknowledge, viewers seem to be looking for partisan views more than objective coverage. Individually, the CNN shows were beaten resoundingly by all the Fox News programs, but also lost to all of the MSNBC programs, including a repeat of Keith Olbermann’s 8 p.m. edition of “Countdown,” which beat the 10 p.m. hour of CNN’s signature prime-time program, “Anderson Cooper 360.”
Again that was a first. Mr. Cooper had 211,000 viewers to 223,000 for Mr. Olbermann’s repeat. That meant Mr. Cooper finished fourth and last in the 10 p.m. hour because, besides being well behind the leader, Greta Van Susteren, who had 538,000 viewers, he was also beaten by a repeat of Nancy Grace’s 8 p.m. show on HLN, which averaged 222,000.

For the month, CNN averaged 202,000 viewers between the ages of 25 and 54 – the group that television news organizations use as their basis of success because of their advertising sales. That was far behind the dominant leader, Fox News, which averaged 689,000. But it also trailed MSNBC, which had 250,000 viewers in that group and HLN, which had 221,000.
The only CNN show from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. that did not finish last was Larry King, which was third, ahead of the new Joy Behar show on HLN. But Sean Hannity’s show on Fox News had a huge lead with 659,000 viewers in that age group. Second was Rachel Maddow on MSNBC with 242,000.
Mr. King averaged 224,000 and Ms. Behar 181,000.
At 7 p.m. CNN’s host, Lou Dobbs was fourth, barely beaten by Jane Velez Mitchell on HLN, 166,000 to 162,000. The big winner was Shepard Smith on Fox with 465,000 viewers. Second was Chris Matthews and “Hardball” on MSNBC, with 179,000 viewers.

CNN’s performance was worst in the 8 p.m. hour. Bill O’Reilly on Fox News continued his long dominance with the biggest numbers of any host, 881,000 viewers. Mr. Olbermann, with his first-run program, was second with 295,000. Close behind was the first edition of Ms. Grace’s show with 269,000. Campbell Brown on CNN trailed with only 162,000.
CNN executives emphasized that the network continues to draw more viewers than all its competitors except Fox News when all hours of the day are counted.
CNN released a statement Monday saying, “CNN’s ratings are always going to be more dependent on the news environment, much more so than opinion-based programming especially in prime time.”
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