If you were President how would you

[island1fox]

For one full year not one penney would be witheld from our paychecks (that amount of money would be in the area of one trillion dollars ) The people would be told to expand and hire in their business's, go out and spend money on homes,cars,malls movies restaurants etc etc. At the end of the fiscal year you must prove by that the money you would have paid in taxes --was in fact spent on the economy. This would immediately jump start the economy and avoid all the political pork projects and corruption and government waste. Jobs would be created and tax revenues would increase !!!!

[klein]

Originally Posted by island1fox

For one full year not one penney would be witheld from our paychecks (that amount of money would be in the area of one trillion dollars ) The people would be told to expand and hire in their business's, go out and spend money on homes,cars,malls movies restaurants etc etc. At the end of the fiscal year you must prove by that the money you would have paid in taxes --was in fact spent on the economy. This would immediately jump start the economy and avoid all the political pork projects and corruption and government waste. Jobs would be created and tax revenues would increase !!!!

In FY 2006, the U.S. government operated with $2.407 trillion in revenue. The U.S. FY 2008 Budget for FY 2008, prepared by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), forecasts revenue to grow to $3.307 trillion.

A bit more then 1 Trillion !
But, you'ld also need to convince the chinese to borrow you that kinda money to live tax free for a year, and your children/grandchildren to pay it back .

[JustTired]

Originally Posted by covemaster

I would put Glenn Beck in charge of the banking industry,G.M Chystler & make him Czar of ACORN & immigration for starters...

Oh yeah......that would do it........

I'm afraid you'd find him lying in the corner, curled up in the fetal position, with his thumb in his mouth.

Probably right next to Rush.......LOL

[klein]

Originally Posted by JustTired

Oh yeah......that would do it........

I'm afraid you'd find him lying in the corner, curled up in the fetal position, with his thumb in his mouth.

Probably right next to Rush.......LOL

+ 1

[Lue C Fur]

Originally Posted by klein

Sofar, I haven't heard anything wise on here. Silly things actually, like tariffs on imports.
Do, that, and you'll get to pay 20-50% more for clothing, groceries, construction, gasoline, autos, and more.

I haven't heard anything about the 3 major costs, (that make up to 70% of your tax dollars), on how to bring them down :
Healthcare, Military, and Interesst payments on National debt.
(one suggested tax cuts - go the opposite way)...

Any President should look at those major costs first, on ways to bring them down.
And, by all means, Obama has been looking at Healthcare and Military.
If, times would have been better, the National debt repayment would have
been a big issue, too.
But, it's comming in the near future (higher taxes).

Havent heard much wise from you either.

[The Other Side]

Funny how you "reaganites" tout his leadership without regard for the actual economic record.

Lets do a comparision.

First, Reagan's GDP growth for 8 years was never better than 3.4%, so far, OBAMA's first GDP % is 3.5%. If Reagan was a genious, then Obama must be better.

Second, Reagan took a $300 million deficit in his first 2 years and turned it into a 3.5 trillion dollar deficit by his 8th year. Today, Obama inherits 1.5 trillion from BUSH and adds another 2.25 trillion in order to prevent the country from entering a depression. This totals 3.75 trillion.

Now, a 3.5 trillion dollar deficit (in 1980 dollars) for Reagan and he was an "economic genious" and the country was "better off" and President Obama is at 3.75 trillion and he's "killing" the country?

How does anyone equate this?

If you add the additional 2.5 trillion dollars in debt BUSH 1 added to Reagans deficit, that totals 6 TRILLION dollars. If combined, the republican party ran up a deficit of 6 trillion dollars in 12 years and the country is still here, yet morons like GLEN BECK and RUSH claim the country will not be here by Christmas because of the 3.75 deficit.

This is how rediculous the claims by the "right" are.

Reagan CUT taxes by 25% for the wealthiest americans during his term and spent more than 3 times the amount of money the goverment took in creating a monster debt in PEACETIME.

First time in the history of our country this has ever happened. Deficit spending has always been the calling of the republicans yet they call themselves "fiscal conservatives". Nothing could be farther than the truth.

Clinton, inheriting the combined debts of Reagan and Bush 1, quick fixed the problem by slashing the extreme military programs and raising taxes.

At the end of the day, after 8 years, Clinton left the country with a surplus and in the following 8 years, BUSH 2 ran that surplus into a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit and passed it along to OBAMA.

Like Reagan, BUSH tried the same failed policies of Reagan and doomed this country for a major recession and higher deficits.

Reagan was no hero, he was a myth.

Today, Reagan only exists in theory, the right wing using him as some kind of guiding light for success, even though he never had any.

Reagan, IMO, was an idiot.

[toonertoo]

Originally Posted by island1fox

For one full year not one penney would be witheld from our paychecks (that amount of money would be in the area of one trillion dollars ) The people would be told to expand and hire in their business's, go out and spend money on homes,cars,malls movies restaurants etc etc. At the end of the fiscal year you must prove by that the money you would have paid in taxes --was in fact spent on the economy. This would immediately jump start the economy and avoid all the political pork projects and corruption and government waste. Jobs would be created and tax revenues would increase !!!!

Island fox for president!

[UpstateNYUPSer]

I would abolish the IRS and replace it with the Fair Tax.

www.fairtax.org

[klein]

Get rid of Hillary.
Sorry, just can't stand her.
She is losing it. Making more harm then good.

Kinda , like Tieguys new, (and old), attitude.

[covemaster]

I would send a 100 national guard troops from Rhode Island to invade Canada !! They would sieze all the oil ,Blow up all the hockey rinks,track down Klein & make him a conservative,I would then appoint Bob & Doug McKenzie to govern all of Canada & they could figure out our healhtcare !!!

[over9five]

Originally Posted by covemaster

I would send a 100 national guard troops from Rhode Island to invade Canada !! They would sieze all the oil ,Blow up all the hockey rinks,track down Klein & make him a conservative,I would then appoint Bob & Doug McKenzie to govern all of Canada & they could figure out our healhtcare !!!

Oh take off!

YouTube - Bob & Doug McKenzie - Take Off

YouTube - Bob & Doug McKenzie - Take Off

[island1fox]

Originally Posted by klein

In FY 2006, the U.S. government operated with $2.407 trillion in revenue. The U.S. FY 2008 Budget for FY 2008, prepared by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), forecasts revenue to grow to $3.307 trillion.

A bit more then 1 Trillion !
But, you'ld also need to convince the chinese to borrow you that kinda money to live tax free for a year, and your children/grandchildren to pay it back .

Klein,
In my post I stated --"witholding tax " from working peoples paychecks -----the other tax sources for the 2.4 trillion ---sales , fees, capital gains etc the gov would continue to recieve. They would have to budget the spending to 1.4 trillion --would not have to borrow from China --Just let the American people truly spur the economy with money better spent than the government . A peoples stimulous that must be spent within twelve months on all sectors of the economy !!

[ajblakejr]

Originally Posted by Raw

It is not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work -- work with us, not over us; stand by our side, not ride on our back. Government can and must provide opportunity, not smother it; foster productivity, not stifle it. First Inaugural Address, January 20, 1981


We who live in free market societies believe that growth, prosperity and ultimately human fulfillment, are created from the bottom up, not the government down. Only when the human spirit is allowed to invent and create, only when individuals are given a personal stake in deciding economic policies and benefitting from their success -- only then can societies remain economically alive, dynamic, progressive, and free. Trust the people. This is the one irrefutable lesson of the entire postwar period contradicting the notion that rigid government controls are essential to economic development. September 29, 1981


Government has an important role in helping develop a country's economic foundation. But the critical test is whether government is genuinely working to liberate individuals by creating incentives to work, save, invest, and succeed. October 30, 1981


We don't have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven't taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. Address to National Association of Realtors, March 28, 1982


It is the Soviet Union that runs against the tide of history.... [It is] the march of freedom and democracy which will leave Marxism- Leninism on the ash heap of history as it has left other tyrannies which stifle the freedom and muzzle the self-expression of the people. Speech to Britain's Parliament, June, 1982


Government growing beyond our consent had become a lumbering giant, slamming shut the gates of opportunity, threatening to crush the very roots of our freedom. What brought America back? The American people brought us back -- with quiet courage and common sense; with undying faith that in this nation under God the future will be ours, for the future belongs to the free. State of the Union Address, February 4, 1986


[G]overnment's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. Remarks to the White House Conference on Small Business, August 15, 1986


The other day, someone told me the difference between a democracy and a people's democracy. It's the same difference between a jacket and a straitjacket. Remarks at Human Rights Day event, December 10, 1986


How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. Remarks in Arlington, Virginia, September 25, 1987


A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago. He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist. February 11, 1988


Republicans believe every day is 4th of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15. Attributed


Are you willing to spend time studying the issues, making yourself aware, and then conveying that information to family and friends? Will you resist the temptation to get a government handout for your community? Realize that the doctor's fight against socialized medicine is your fight. We can't socialize the doctors without socializing the patients. Recognize that government invasion of public power is eventually an assault upon your own business. If some among you fear taking a stand because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government, recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile hoping he'll eat you last. Address to the nation, October 27, 1964


It's time we asked ourselves if we still know the freedoms intended for us by the Founding Fathers. James Madison said, "We base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government." This idea that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power, is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves. Address to the nation, October 27, 1964


The Founding Fathers knew a government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they knew when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. So we have come to a time for choosing. Address to the nation, October 27, 1964


We need true tax reform that will at least make a start toward restoring for our children the American Dream that wealth is denied to no one, that each individual has the right to fly as high as his strength and ability will take him. . . . But we cannot have such reform while our tax policy is engineered by people who view the tax as a means of achieving changes in our social structure. Address to the nation, October 27, 1964



Great Quotes from President Reagan RIP

[Bad Gas!]

I would start with the Fair Tax and fade out the IRS...Read the Fair Tax book and you will see why...Whichever politician has the balls to put it in I will back..(DEM or Rep)...This will eliminate special interest groups who control the money for the politicians.. There's more but I don't won't to bore you like The Other Side does when he gets way off on himself!!!

[toonertoo]

Originally Posted by UpstateNYUPSer

I would abolish the IRS and replace it with the Fair Tax.

www.fairtax.org

ditto! +5
Ps I dont read the other side.....................

[Baba gounj]

After today's press conference about what happened at Fort Hood; I would not be making jokes and clowning around. Now that showed his true lack of any skills.

[Dis-organized Labor]

Originally Posted by Baba gounj

After today's press conference about what happened at Fort Hood; I would not be making jokes and clowning around. Now that showed his true lack of any skills.

BABA,
The tragedy at Fort Hood will not be affected by Brown Cafe.
There are other threads that question the oversight of Medical versus Other Disciples in the Military.
I am a Right-winger, with Left opinions (at times).

I don't think the Avatar & Name that you have would warrant an investigation of you and your background, but I'd recommend that you change it to "fit in with everyone".

I'm sure this will start some controversy, but these are my initial thoughts.

[Baba gounj]

please see the whole video clip from Thurs. press conference.
barry was there to make a statement about what happened at Fort Hood and he starts off by clowning around, not until 2 minutes goes by does he get to the point.

Thanks for the input about my picture, at least no one else has complained unlike my last one.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by klein

Sofar, I haven't heard anything wise on here. Silly things actually, like tariffs on imports.
Do, that, and you'll get to pay 20-50% more for clothing, groceries, construction, gasoline, autos, and more.

I haven't heard anything about the 3 major costs, (that make up to 70% of your tax dollars), on how to bring them down :
Healthcare, Military, and Interesst payments on National debt.
(one suggested tax cuts - go the opposite way)...

Any President should look at those major costs first, on ways to bring them down.
And, by all means, Obama has been looking at Healthcare and Military.
If, times would have been better, the National debt repayment would have
been a big issue, too.
But, it's comming in the near future (higher taxes).

Thats because your point has nothing to do with turning around the economy.

three main factors to turning around the economy
freeing up the money supply
turning around the real estate industry
lowering unemployment.

currently the money supply is greatly diminished. In its heyday our economy was flowing approximately 2 trillon dollars , last estimates I saw has it down to 150 billion. Less bucks out there to invest in expansion.

the real estate market shows signs of a recovery but then they should they have been in a recession the longest.

unemployment now at 10.2 percent. Some experts put the real unemployment rate at 19 percent factoring those who are no longer counted. This rate may be topping. companies as a whole are setting new productivity records that probably can not go much higher. temporary workforce numbers are rising which is a sign that companies may start hiring soon.

Meanwhile much of the obama stimulus money still has not been spent.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by The Other Side

Listen, BUSH cut taxes on the richest americans in the country while RAISING taxes on the middle and lower classes. For 8 years while the richest people in this country benefitted from tax cuts, the rest of us paid HIGHER costs for everything in our lives.

its a good story with a lot of fantasy. I'm no where near the catogory of the richest americans. Yet Me and my family benifited from the bush tax cuts.

I'm also someone who invests with the hope of having a decent retirement some day. The bush tax cuts help my investment plan by lowering the tax bite on the gains.

can you please kill the BS and start talking real world for a change?

By the way the bush tax cuts are now the Obama tax cuts since they are still in affect.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by The Other Side

SANO,

It sounds like you dont really know anything about reagan other than the useless rhetoric used by right wing tv?

If you do a little research, youll find that Reagan RAISED taxes on the middle class higher than any president in history..

7 new taxes on the middle class during his 8 years.

Yet, guys like you tout his leadership.

Time to learn something about this man before you ask for more of the same.

Reagan was a myth, not a legend. He led one of the most corrupt administrations since NIXON and came close to being impeached.

If he hadnt been shot, he would have been impeached.

Do your research.

Reagan was the greatest president ever. You can't rewrite history.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by The Other Side

Reagan, IMO, was an idiot.

PHew, did somebody fart?

Reagan rules . You can't rewrite history.

[tieguy]

Originally Posted by klein

Get rid of Hillary.
Sorry, just can't stand her.
She is losing it. Making more harm then good.

Kinda , like Tieguys new, (and old), attitude.

I've never been a Hillary fan but I respect the fact she has gonads.

Honest feedback is a gift Kleinflu. Thanks to me you now know where you stand here.

[JimJimmyJames]

Dismantle the empire.

Control and reduce immigration.

Enact fair trade legislation.

Withdraw from NATO, NAFTA and a host of other acronyms.

Reduce the size of the federal government by eliminating whole departments. Education, Energy and Homeland Security being examples.

Lower taxes across the board.

Eliminate the Federal Reserve.

Bring back the gold standard.

And, to quote Cove: "send 100 national guard troops from Rhode Island to invade Canada!" .

[wkmac]

Originally Posted by JimJimmyJames

And, to quote Cove: "send 100 national guard troops from Rhode Island to invade Canada!" .

As to your other comments, and I'll leave it at that.

However, as to invading Canada, hope your funny bone is ready!

I ROTFLMAO when I saw this thanks to LRC..

YouTube- VG Cats War Of 1812

YouTube- VG Cats War Of 1812