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brett636 · 11-06-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lue C Fur

Dont forget the trial where all the bleeding heart liberals will come to defend his actions and put the blame elsewhere. Yup...the cost to taxpayers will be huge. Maybe we will get lucky and he will die soon.

Ironic isn't it? We are going to spend tons of taxpayer dollars to bring this guy's health up to par so he can go to trial, get convicted, and be put to death. It is a right he is afforded despite the glaring evidence of his guilt. Texas is the state known for putting criminals like him to death, faster than most states, but maybe the UCMJ will be quicker still. The quicker he can get convicted and sent up to be with his 72 virgins the better.

Baba gounj · 11-06-2009, 10:10 PM

Those minutes barry spent giving a "shout out " to that CMH winner was another blunder , the guy had received a Presidental Medal of Freedom by none other than barry. Another fine example of his lack of understanding.
Had Bush made that error every media outlet would be calling him a buffoon .

tieguy · 11-07-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brett636

Ironic isn't it? We are going to spend tons of taxpayer dollars to bring this guy's health up to par so he can go to trial, get convicted, and be put to death. It is a right he is afforded despite the glaring evidence of his guilt. Texas is the state known for putting criminals like him to death, faster than most states, but maybe the UCMJ will be quicker still. The quicker he can get convicted and sent up to be with his 72 virgins the better.

just think a religion that believes your reward in heaven is the opportunity to violate 72 females who are virgins. And they think we are screwed up.

moreluck · 11-07-2009, 06:39 AM

72 Virgins ????????

Why It's Important to Listen Carefully........

Osama bin Laden went to heaven and was greeted by George Washington, who slapped him and yelled, "How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive?"
Patrick Henry then approached and punched Osama in the nose. James Madison entered and kicked him in the shin. An angry Thomas Jefferson whacked Osama over the head with a cane.
The thrashing continued as John Randolph, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans came in and unleashed their anger on the terrorist leader.
Suddenly, as Osama lay writhing in unbearable pain, an angel appeared.
"This is not what you promised me," said Osama.
"Come on, Osama," the angel replied. "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you in heaven."

Baba gounj · 11-07-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

72 Virgins ????????

Why It's Important to Listen Carefully........

Osama bin Laden went to heaven and was greeted by George Washington, who slapped him and yelled, "How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive?"
Patrick Henry then approached and punched Osama in the nose. James Madison entered and kicked him in the shin. An angry Thomas Jefferson whacked Osama over the head with a cane.
The thrashing continued as John Randolph, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans came in and unleashed their anger on the terrorist leader.
Suddenly, as Osama lay writhing in unbearable pain, an angel appeared.
"This is not what you promised me," said Osama.
"Come on, Osama," the angel replied. "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you in heaven."

nice one

Jones · 11-07-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tieguy

just think a religion that believes your reward in heaven is the opportunity to violate 72 females who are virgins. And they think we are screwed up.

I agree it's ridiculous, but all religions look weird to people who don't practice them. BTW, I'm pretty sure they just get tended to by those virgins, like brought grapes and such, they don't actually get to "violate" them. I could be wrong though, islam is definitely not my bag.

moreluck · 11-07-2009, 08:23 AM

Apparently, "They can go all the way !!" SCORE !!

For any sane person, he wrote, heaven would be an intolerable bore.
Not so in Islam. The Quran describes a lush garden-like heaven in which each man can be married to a bevy of beautiful dark-eyed females called houri. The passage is open to interpretation, but scholars say these are not earthly girls who died but heavenly creatures and, it would appear, they can be deflowered and then automatically reflower.

taken from Seattle Times article...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...owledge01.html

Jones · 11-07-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

Apparently, "They can go all the way !!" SCORE !!

For any sane person, he wrote, heaven would be an intolerable bore.
Not so in Islam. The Quran describes a lush garden-like heaven in which each man can be married to a bevy of beautiful dark-eyed females called houri. The passage is open to interpretation, but scholars say these are not earthly girls who died but heavenly creatures and, it would appear, they can be deflowered and then automatically reflower.

taken from Seattle Times article...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...owledge01.html

Well, I guess it beats sitting around singing hymns 'n kumbaya

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wkmac · 11-07-2009, 11:54 AM

Horrible and tragic as this all is, from a political strategy POV and specifically it's timing, it might have been a stroke of luck. Between Ft. Hood and the shooting yesterday in Orlando, it sure has taken the attention of the people away from Washington this weekend and the political goings on with healthcare and all the backroom deals this will entail.

Also as it's being decided to move forward or not in Afghanistan, how perfect for the President to have a reminder of how dangerous these muslim types are and even for Sec. of State Clinton as she also tries to steer public policy on the foreign agenda side in relation to muslim extremism, especially the Iranian threat.

I'm sure the old Clinton machine (Rahm et al) now working for President Obama see this all as manna from heaven, and a familar ring to it?

YouTube- Wag The Dog

YouTube- History of CIA and MK Ultra (LSD Mind Control Program)

YouTube- President Clinton Apologizes for MK Ultra

Don't dare think outside!

wkmac · 11-07-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by moreluck

Apparently, "They can go all the way !!" SCORE !!

For any sane person, he wrote, heaven would be an intolerable bore.
Not so in Islam. The Quran describes a lush garden-like heaven in which each man can be married to a bevy of beautiful dark-eyed females called houri. The passage is open to interpretation, but scholars say these are not earthly girls who died but heavenly creatures and, it would appear, they can be deflowered and then automatically reflower.

taken from Seattle Times article...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...owledge01.html

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Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

Sometimes I seriously question just where the root of all evil actually comes from!

This is just so much more attractive and appealing at the end of the day!

And where have I heard this type talk before

Jones · 11-07-2009, 12:53 PM

moreluck · 11-07-2009, 01:14 PM

Too funny !!!!

wkmac · 11-07-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jones

Ain't it funny how so many "good christian folk" think the other guy's religion acts the idiot and fool. All one has to do is "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" and then tell me that christians can't be suckered into pipedreams, fairy tales and yes, even extremism.

Que it up Benny!

YouTube- BENNY HINN: Let The Bodies Hit The Floor

The hell with spares, STEEEEEEE-RIKE!!!!!!

knightablaze · 11-07-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baba gounj

Those minutes barry spent giving a "shout out " to that CMH winner was another blunder , the guy had received a Presidental Medal of Freedom by none other than barry. Another fine example of his lack of understanding.
Had Bush made that error every media outlet would be calling him a buffoon .

You fail at the comprehension of time. President Obama's opening remarks at the Tribal Nations Conference occurred at about 10:30 am CST whereas the Fort Hood shooting occurred around 1:30 pm CST.

Go fail some more, it makes my day.

brett636 · 11-07-2009, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jones

Baba gounj · 11-07-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by knightablaze

You fail at the comprehension of time. President Obama's opening remarks at the Tribal Nations Conference occurred at about 10:30 am CST whereas the Fort Hood shooting occurred around 1:30 pm CST.

Go fail some more, it makes my day.

No you are wrong.
He spoke for nearly two minutes giving "thank yous" to a conference crew as if he were receiving some award that they helped him in achieving. Then he spoke about what happened at Fort Hood. I listened to it live over the radio, and the radio station keep playing it all day for they too were shocked at his behavior.

Baba gounj · 11-07-2009, 04:07 PM

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/polit...President.html
Updated 2:56 PM CST, Fri, Nov 6, 2009

[IMG]http://media.nbcchicago.com/images/410*288/92808551.jpg[/IMG]

President Obama didn't wait long after Tuesday's devastating elections to give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships.
After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.
But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president

YouTube- Fort Hood Tragedy -- Barack Obama Gives Odd "Shout-Out" Before He Comments on Massacre -- FOX News

. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner." Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?
Anyone at home aware of the major news story of the previous hours had to have been stunned. An incident like this requires a scrapping of the early light banter. The president should apologize for the tone of his remarks, explain what has happened, express sympathy for those slain and appeal for calm and patience until all the facts are in. That's the least that should occur.

klein · 11-07-2009, 04:26 PM

Why aren't the handguns purchased by him the day prior, just a block away, not mentioned on this thread ?
Might be another topic.
But, any islamic American has the right, by constitution, to buy them.

Got to wonder now, how easy it is for Al Quaida, and the moles, to fully take advantage of that.

tieguy · 11-07-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by klein

Why aren't the handguns purchased by him the day prior, just a block away, not mentioned on this thread ?
Might be another topic.
But, any islamic American has the right, by constitution, to buy them.

Got to wonder now, how easy it is for Al Quaida, and the moles, to fully take advantage of that.

not sure a soldier buying handguns is ever going to attract a lot of attention.

klein · 11-07-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tieguy

not sure a soldier buying handguns is ever going to attract a lot of attention.

Does it matter ? He could be a cab driver, or part of a cleaning crew.
Buying guns does not attract attention, or does it ?
All you need is a clean record.

Dis-organized Labor · 11-07-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by klein

Why aren't the handguns purchased by him the day prior, just a block away, not mentioned on this thread ?
Might be another topic.
But, any islamic American has the right, by constitution, to buy them.

Got to wonder now, how easy it is for Al Quaida, and the moles, to fully take advantage of that.

I'm glad you made this post. I could not find any news source that describewhat type & how many guns were used.

klein · 11-07-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dis-organized Labor

I'm glad you made this post. I could not find any news source that describewhat type & how many guns were used.

Was yesterdays news.
2 handguns, purchased the day before.

Here is a link :

http://cbs11tv.com/local/fort.hood.s...2.1297158.html

brett636 · 11-07-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by klein

Check out yahoo.ca

Was yesterdays news.
2 handguns, purchased the day before.

Really a non issue. If he had no prior criminal convictions then there was very little to stop him from purchasing those weapons. Most weapons used in crimes are purchased illegally, not legally.

klein · 11-07-2009, 06:45 PM

Yes , Brett.
But, darnit twice in a row for mass shootings ?
Orlando guy bought his right where he used to work !

ORLANDO, Fla. - A gunman opened fire Friday in the offices of an engineering firm where he was let go more than two years ago, authorities said, killing one person and injuring five others.
Jason Rodriguez, 40, surrendered about three hours later, after officers saw him through the window of his mother's home and asked him to come outside, Orlando Police Chief Val Demings said.
Asked by a reporter outside the police station why he did it, he replied: "Because they left me to rot."

Demings said Rodriguez brought a handgun to the firm in a downtown office tower where he once worked as an engineer, but investigators are not sure what his motive was.
"This is a tragedy, no doubt about it, especially on the heels of the tragedy in Fort Hood that is on our minds," Demings said. "I'm just glad we don't have any more fatalities or any more injuries than we currently have."
Charles W. Price, an attorney who represented Rodriguez in a bankruptcy case, declined to comment.
Camille Previlon told The Associated Press her uncle, engineer Guy Lungenbel, was shot in the back and was able to talk but had not said much about the shooting.
"He is stable," she said. "He's just hurting real bad in the back."

brett636 · 11-07-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by klein

Yes , Brett.
But, darnit twice in a row for mass shootings ?
Orlando guy bought his right where he used to work !

ORLANDO, Fla. - A gunman opened fire Friday in the offices of an engineering firm where he was let go more than two years ago, authorities said, killing one person and injuring five others.
Jason Rodriguez, 40, surrendered about three hours later, after officers saw him through the window of his mother's home and asked him to come outside, Orlando Police Chief Val Demings said.
Asked by a reporter outside the police station why he did it, he replied: "Because they left me to rot."

Demings said Rodriguez brought a handgun to the firm in a downtown office tower where he once worked as an engineer, but investigators are not sure what his motive was.
"This is a tragedy, no doubt about it, especially on the heels of the tragedy in Fort Hood that is on our minds," Demings said. "I'm just glad we don't have any more fatalities or any more injuries than we currently have."
Charles W. Price, an attorney who represented Rodriguez in a bankruptcy case, declined to comment.
Camille Previlon told The Associated Press her uncle, engineer Guy Lungenbel, was shot in the back and was able to talk but had not said much about the shooting.
"He is stable," she said. "He's just hurting real bad in the back."

Unfortunately, these people were crazy in their own right whether they were motivated by religious dogma or personal vendettas. They will find a way to accomplish their goals, and if a gun wasn't available I'm certain they would have found another means to their horrific ends. You can't stop crazy people from being crazy. All you can do is allow the non crazy people (read normal citizens) the means to protect themselves when these crazy people(read criminals, islamic jihadists, tyrants) show their true colors.